5 Ways You Can Make the Warrior Forum a Better Place
January 24th, 2012 | 
Author: Hi everyone! I LOVE the Warrior Forum. Let me just get that out of the way. But I see things I’d love to change (but can’t cuz it’s not my site) and things I see people are afraid of or dislike about it, so they don’t utilize it at all.
I’d like to take this time to share 5 tips on how you can make the Warrior Forum a GREAT place for you and other like-minded individuals.
1. Let people get to know you – warts and all (oh and if they dislike you, that’s their loss).
I see people complain that they don’t feel comfortable there. Well, introduce yourself! Start participating in discussions. Make friends. If you are a wallflower anywhere, you’re only going to be asking, “How soon can I leave?”
2. Be a big girl or boy and realize that while there are lots of scumbags in all forums, even this one, there are lots of good people, too.
I hate it when I see disparaging comments about “Warriors” in general. Hell I can go to a CHURCH and find a bunch of creeps there, too! There are bad people everywhere – and the sooner you recognize that not everyone’s out to get you, the better. That said, trust no one without due diligence into their character. I’ve found a bunch of people I admired to be phony scam artists there – broke my heart – but I also found a bunch of great, ethical people, too!
3. Be vocal about injustices, will ya?
Don’t be scared to sound off in a WSO or put someone in their place with your own opinion in a forum thread! I’m not talking about being rude or mean or uncivilized. I’m just saying, you can disagree with old timers and mods in the forum if you have an opinion.
Do it right – or you’ll find yourself banned. That would suck.
4. Help people – even if you don’t think you’re “guru” enough to live up to the job.
There are so many people posting there, terrified as they hit that submit button. Reach out and help people whenever there’s anything you have an opinion about. For instance, I help people with my own opinions, even if it goes against the grain of half or more of the members there!
5. Don’t be an ass kisser.
I hate ass kissers. You don’t have to cozy up next to someone on Warrior Forum to be liked. This isn’t middle school. Just like whoever deserves it – including brand spanking new newbies. And dislike who you dislike – even if everyone else seems to be lodged permanently in their backside.
6. Reward good and honest Warriors!
One major problem is the WSO section for many people. So if you find a WSO that is good, go POST on it. Ethical marketers don’t ask for feedback in the WSO, but scumbags do. So they drive traffic there and those WSOs get the little flame folder next to them, and it causes MORE people to go buy it.
I did this the other day with Peg Baron’s Article Starters WSO. I had used them before, knew they were great, so when I saw a Tweet by her about it, I popped in and left a positive message.
We tend to speak out too much about what’s bad – like if you get ripped off – but stay silent or praise someone via email when they do something right. Show your support for the good people with Thanks to their name and comments in their specials. Recommend THOSE people to your friends.
The burden is OURS to bear in helping make the WF a better place. I already love it – but my one little comment for Peg isn’t going to create the tsunami of recognition she deserves for her great product.
Tiff 
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The WF is way too big to be of any real use. For a beginner, it is much too hard to be able to tell who is real and who isn’t. Just too much going on.
Tiffany, you have years of experience so you may be able to identify the scammers from the helpers. However, for most of the people there who earn very little, it is nearly impossible for them to tell.
The WSO’s are just a way for the experienced to fleece the noobs. I bet if you ask 1000 Warriors and they are honest, 95% of them will admit spending way too much on worthless rehashed WSO’s.
The absolute BEST thing I ever did was to break away from that forum. You can spin your wheels there for years trying to put together the pieces needed to make money online and never have the light bulb go off.
The reason you like the WF is because you market to these noobs. You make a lot of money there either directly or indirectly. You are a seller and not a buyer. The only time you buy is because you want to review the product which will possibly make you money through the review.
I think if you were honest with yourself and tried to put yourself in the position of a real noob, you might come to the conclusion that the WF is NOT the best place for someone to learn how to make money online.
I would NEVER steer a friend there to learn IM. NEVER.
No I disagree Jim. I was new there once too. You don’t avoid something because it’s too big. You go in and see what your experiences are one at a time. It’s not too difficult to find out who’s good and who’s not – beginners just trust too fast and easy, which is something they need to change.
you are so wrong about why I love the WF, too. I do NOT make most of my money there. My WSO right now is for $1, my friend. ONE. Why? I want to reach people about ethics. I want to combat spam. I lve WF because I have gained MANY good things there of a non direct monetary manner. For example:
* My own mentor I met there.
* Warriors have given me tons of free advice – technical steps and otherwise – all I have to do is post a question and they help (I’m talking early days too – not just NOW).
* I get ideas from the forum
* I hear about new tactics, and even if they’re done UNethically, I can make them ethical (in some instances).
*I hear about tools and strategies I want to embrace OR warn people off of.
I’m very honest about why I love WF. I hate that you happened to have such a bad experience that you blast it, but you have every right. I hate when someone who DID have a bad experience then implies that just because mine WASN’T – I must be a liar.
I ALWAYS steer people to WF – always. And I’m happy I do. They can find many great things there!
Sure your WSO is for $1 and with that small sum you have a future client who will buy more from you. You are using the WF to get customers. The WF is a free advertising source for you and where you get the majority of your future business.
I’m not saying that you are unethical because you are not. But I doubt you would spend as much time there if a new rule was magically instituted where you couldn’t generate business and future customers there. At that time, you might decide to spend more time on SEO or other avenues of reaching people.
Again, you are a seller and not a buyer. You might not be screwing the noobs but there are hundreds of Warriors that are.
Jim I didn’t require an opt in from anyone to get their deliverables. I don’t KNOW that they’ll continue following me. If they do – if they feel my product was valuable, then great – isn’t that a GOOD thing? And Free? WF costs $40 PER bump, PER listing and you have to pay for the War Room to be able to post one. I’ve paid $80 to run that WSO and bump it so far. I would spend the same amount of time there is no advertising was allowed because it’s where *I* was helped and I want to give back! Why are you hellbent on diminishing MY experience? I get that YOURS was bad. Sorry for you and wish that hadn’t happened, but I have had GOOD experiences there – period. Forget sales. That’s not what all this is about. It’s YOUR view of it. That’s why it wasn’t a good place for you. I AM a buyer there too. And what do you think this post was all about? MAKING it a better place – some of those tips listed above are FOR newbies. It’s a great place for newbies, period – if they (and seasoned marketers too) go about it being cautious, but open as well.
Last comment, I promise.
Out of the hundreds of thousands (probably) of people who have been to the WF since its beginning, what percentage of people do you think were successful at ever making money online? Honestly think about that number.
I’ll bet its pretty small and if it is, then I am right that the WF is generally a waste of time and money for most people.
One other thing: you wrote this post so you must have a reason for writing it. You must sense that there are a lot of problems with the forum and a lot of misinformation and self serving lowlifes on there.
Jim I don’t know – but to be honest with you, a HUGE percentage of people have this “gratify me now” mentality – especially when they come into this. They WANT push button and easy – and do NOT want hard work and ethics. So yeah, they might fail. I hope they do! I find it rare when someone is a go getter and willing to do things ethically.
Your view of the WF is your right to have – but so is mine. That’s where I have a problem. You are free to think what YOU want and I am free to think what I want. I have had a 110% opposite experience from you. I know others who have, too. It’s all what you make it. If you go in gullible and looking for a fast fix and are wiling to game the system, then yeah, you’re gonna fail. Why don’t people take ANY personal responsibility anymore?
If I got ripped off in WF, I’d make such a stink they’d want to shut me up and probably refund me my money and then some. I’ve ALWAYS been that way.
My problem is NOT that there are low lifes (EVERYWHERE). My problem is that people bitch and complain and then just do NOTHING about it. It’s those people I’m targeting with this blog post. If you’re fed up with scumbags getting all the attention in WSOs, then buy from someone ethical and go make THEIR folder flame! If you complain that no one helps you, start helping others!
Complaining without action gets you nowhere. Neither does running away from GOOD opportunities just because there are some bad one mixed in too. take personal responsibility and sort out the good from the bad and make it a better place.
I would have to add:
Don’t judge the whole forum on just the WSO section!
In fact I would suggest that “noobs” don’t even go there! There is plenty of great information and help available without entering that section. All the complaints I see focus on the WSO section.
I would further suggest that the first purchase that should be made at the forum is War Room membership. After that work on the principle that if it sounds too good to be true then it probably is.
I feel it’s okay to go to the WSO section – it’s a great place for deals you don’t find elsewhere. BUT I’d be wary of everything. If you see a SO you like, start researching the product seller online to see if people think he’s a scumbag.
You bring up some good points, Tiff. (And I’m not saying that to suck up to you
When I started, the WF scared the crap out of me. But I figured out I could learn a lot while still taking some of things with a grain of salt.
Then I stood up for a poor man who was being beaten up by a bunch of old-timers, when really it was a big misunderstanding because English was not his native language. After that I stopped being scared of the WF.
I so appreciated your comment on my WSO the other day, more so because you didn’t have an agenda and you didn’t have to bother leaving a comment.
Thanks!!
Peggy
It scares everyone Peggy LOL! So people stay silent – they don’t ask questions, they don’t help others “in case they’re wrong,” they don’t go speak up for ethics or good marketers. Glad you ventured out to take up for someone else – THAT is probably why I like you so much! LOL
Sorry Tiff, but I am with Jim on his comments about the WF (not your reasoning for being there and promoting it)
I am not there for advice or tutorials – like WA, there is far too much confusing information coming in from individuals. I’d rather buy it or find it other ways. I use forums as a place for discussion and interaction and WF just does not fit that bill for me.
I tried to get my head around the place as a newbie and got completely swamped, two years later I find that the site is full of even more egotistical know-alls who shut down any decent conversation with no thought for the ‘discussion’ aspect.
Many decent discussions are full of deleted comments (either by the perp or moderator)so you lose the flow of the conversation.
Yes there are some fantastic people there, I met my own ‘kick a** savior’ there as well as yourself, Terra Kern, and all the wonderful PLR providers but most of these I have met through other forums where I have been able to build a relationship with them without the noise and chaos that surrounds WF.
The War Room is just another place of confusion and chaos – even more so because it is full of free stuff that may or may not work and everyone is will to give you a helping hand – so long as it is the hand that they want to give. eg – You can give away WSO’s but not PLR – huh?
Although I could be making far more money with my PLR by being there and trying desperately to be heard above the noise (while keeping my head down enough to not get banned) the place leaves me with a headache.
Because I do get involved, have experience and also have an opinion, trying to find discussions that I feel that I can add value to takes loads of time – I could be having the same discussion on other forums and getting real dialogue, so at the end of the day I am only joining the discussion on WF to get the sig link.
While this is ethical I am not sure that it is the best use of my time or resources. My time is far better spent interacting with others in environments less….. ummmm ….. crowded, testosterone filled and negative.
In my world WF is really good for one thing though. If I want an honest opinion on a product or person I’ll use it as a part of my research.
While I will not recommend it to anyone I also understand there are those who feel that it their second home and the closest thing to IM heaven that there is – and that is cool – each to their own
Rach
(sorry about the typos – breakfast, kids and WF discussions do not mix particularly well!)
I don’t mind people disagreeing Rach
It’s going to be right for some people, but not right for others. I don’t mind if it’s not right for you, or Jim – but to say it’s flat out NOT a good place for newbie is a falsity. It wasn’t right FOR YOU. It isn’t right for some others. It IS right for many people! It was perfect for me. I didn’t get ripped off a ton. I DID get lots of good info, made lots of great contacts, learned a TON. So yeah we agree – to each his own LOL! You seem to have a different viewpoint on this than Jim though. He seems to be trying to convince me how wrong I am. You’re just telling your perspective about it.
I will add to Jim that if a person DOES like it there and chooses to make it their business base it is a great place. Your customers are loyal, supportive and WANTING your product. That is not a bad thing – it is good business!
agree!
I like what you say about speaking out about injustices, Tiff. It’s much better to challenge wrongs instead of just run away and avoid the forum altogether.
I’ve never really had a problem with the Warrior Forum. I think that the key is to just remember that it’s a forum where people simply have discussions. It doesn’t mean that they’re always telling the truth or that they’re using ethical practices in their business – I see it simply as a place where people can bounce ideas off of each other.
You wouldn’t go believing everything from any random person that you meet in the street and the WF is no different – it’s down to our own common sense and reasoning to try and sort out who’s worth paying attention to and who isn’t.
And not just that. I think that if you interact in the forum and stick to who you really are and not try to change your personality or viewpoint to suit others, you can easily attract the right types of likeminded people that match you in terms of ethics, viewpoints, ideas and intentions. I’ve met some fantastic people on the WF and they share similar ideas and standpoints to me.
I think that anyone that’s put off by the Warrior Forum should really give it a second chance. By those good people that are deterred from the forum leaving and not spending time there, it’s only leaving those rotten types that pushed them away in the first place.
If you don’t like a place, I would say get in there and contribute and change it. The WF is really what we make it and we can get out of it what we put in. Anything that’s unpleasant within the Warrior Forum and those unfavorable people that are often mentioned aren’t a product of the Warrior Forum itself; they’re only interacting there and the more good people that we can get to interact there the better the Warrior Forum can be. It’s public so we can make it however we want it.
With regards to WSOs, I can honestly say that I’ve never gone looking in the WSO section and purchased a WSO from someone that I don’t know. The only time I’ve purchased a WSO is when it’s from people that I’ve heard of and followed within the forum or from outside of the forum. I’m not one of those that just go looking for a WSO if I’m in a buying mood. And even when I do purchase, it’s usually for software or content or information from someone that I know and respect.
Obviously, it’s important to stay alert – especially when purchasing WSOs – but I wouldn’t be put off from the whole forum just because of those that are promoting spam tactics and promising to make you a millionaire overnight. I think that any problems that people have with the Warrior Forum are not really about the Warrior Forum itself – it’s more about people in general; their greed and their flaws. And that’s a problem with planet Earth – not just the Warrior Forum. We can pick out the good parts though and there are some really great people if we just take the time to get to know them instead of being intimidated by people that don’t matter anyway.
agree Nathan! Well said
Hi Nathan and everyone else
I agree with you Nathan about not believing random people on the street and that goes for WF also.
I think that is what happens with people, they hear about WF and think they are all experts and should be listened to. In the past few months, I have revised my opinion about WF. It needs to be regarded just like Internet Marketing niche in general.
Tiffany, everything you have mentioned, has been part of my WF experience and opinion. For example, I was afraid to make any post that might put me in a “bad light”. But I’ve never been able to sit back and let someone be rude to someone else. I even took up for you on a WF post you made a few weeks ago. The poster made an uncalled for remark. (And I KNOW you don’t need taking up for. LOL But it was just wrong.)
Another thing about WF, part of the forum, nonmembers can see. So I had already came to the conclusion several weeks ago that we need to make WF an ethical place and newbie friendly.
What’s really neat is I know more than some of those posters, which makes me feel I’m going to be okay in this.
I know WAY TOO MANY ethical, honest, and helpful people who do business in WF. I was introduced to the WF many years ago by Paul Counts and Jeff Wellman.
Take care,
Donna
LOL Thanks Donna! Wish I’d seen the rude remark. I LOVE when I see that happen
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“You wouldn’t go believing everything from any random person that you meet in the street and the WF is no different – it’s down to our own common sense and reasoning to try and sort out who’s worth paying attention to and who isn’t.
And not just that. I think that if you interact in the forum and stick to who you really are and not try to change your personality or viewpoint to suit others, you can easily attract the right types of likeminded people that match you in terms of ethics, viewpoints, ideas and intentions. I’ve met some fantastic people on the WF and they share similar ideas and standpoints to me. ”
ABSOLUTELY spot on Nathan! Nothing to add… your post says it all
It’s been a while since I commented here but I have visited daily. Regarding the lack of ethics and Pinterest and your comments above about the WF – omg so perfect.
I see a huge change in IM and am sickened by the spam/scam/crap that is floating around again. And I am getting sick of 2 hour webinars. Enough already.
But I digress. I just wanted to say that your blogs on the lack of ethics is the best start to my day.
I’ve started working on some Kindle projects and I see that post the Kindle PLR slap, there are so many trying to game Kindle in other ways.
I mean, HOW many cookbooks can Kindle absorb?
Thanks to your branding program, I have been stripping down my work life to an astounding (to me) degree.
And enjoying my writing a lot more. I write longer and better articles and upped my price to $9/100 words. I use Web Content Studio for LSI themed articles.
So much less stress being focused.
Anyway, I just wanted to say thank you for being you. And making me laugh!
Cheers,
Joanne
PS – one of my sites was about chaos but it was a lot of blogging about my struggle to find focus — a little too navel-gazing to be a source of income. And not all that informative to the world.
I revived my Geek Granny site instead because I have a couple of decades of technical expertise and thought that site would provide some interesting information that someone would find useful.
One of the things that I discovered in buying WSO is that there is often a glossing over of the technical knowledge involved and I think, if I did not have a couple of dozen tech certificates, I’d be lost with this information.
It’s funny I see it growing into something better – people used to be intimidated by gurus and now there’s more calling them out and a spread of ethics. Love the Geek Granny idea! That could be HUGE Joanne! Like I’m talking guest spots on major TV show huge.
Hi Tiff and everyone,
I love the warrior forum, it’s like a second home to me and I don’t make a dime. Yes it is full of scam/spam artists but that is life. There are all kinds of people. I once had someone offer to mentor me and he offered a critique of my site. As soon as he sold me his product, I didn’t hear from him anymore. I was lucky. His stuff was not too expensive and it was good. Useful.
I lurked around the WF for a while until I understood the way it works. I don’t believe it is too overwhelming for a newbie unless you are not willing to do some leg work. By leg work, I mean use the search function. There are so many threads there by newbies asking the same old question when you can just search and discover what has been said.
I have met a lot of wonderful people on the WF but I still take everything with a pinch of salt. I love the fact that I can get a lot of help from there though, I’ve learned so much. What tickles me more is that I can actually help people based on my experiences. That is a truly wonderful feeling.
So is the WF perfect? No. It isn’t. But nothing in life is perfect and I think that’s what Tiff is trying to put across. It is possible to go to the WF, learn a lot and contribute knowledge.
That being said, I have been looking for another great forum so that I don’t spend so much time at the WF
Yes! Bravo!
Hi Tiff,
Number 3 made me chuckle I must confess. The WF totally gags free speech unless you’re part of their ‘Royal Family’ or a mod; in which case you can speak to others like they are something you’ve scraped off your shoe!(you and your is being used as a third party btw)
Honestly, the worst has to be Paul Myers – he’s the rudest and most condescending man (broadly using the term) I have ever witnesses on a forum. He has this raving fan clubs of likewise unintelligent kiss arsers that just make you want to projectile vomit.
Okay, so I’m singling out one point you made but really; how can anyone say that the WF is a great place? What reputable business model takes your ‘lifetime’ membership fee then has no point of contact for a refund should they decide to ban you on a whim. Have a Google around and see some of the horror stories. I realize there’s a percentage that deserve banning but not all can be justified and some are banned for just saying ‘Hi’ without any links in their profiles!….incredible.
The WSO section is just a place for scammy ‘make money online’ marketers to peddle their scams now that Clickbank won’t have them. Although to be totally objective on this subject; plr’s a different kind of business and doesn’t fit into that type of niche.
I’m truly glad that you’ve had a positive experience Tiff – really I am; but for me it sickens me. There’s far too much negativity on that ship.
I noticed you said in your email
“If you can’t BE the change you
want to see in this world, then don’t complain.”
A very good analogy however; over here in the UK we also have a saying which would be used in context with places like the WF……
“If you lie down with dogs – you’ll get up with fleas!”
Sorry, I guess I just see red when I hear someone blowing the WF trumpet, the ‘bait’ is too tempting and the injustice for too many who have lost their money on the joining fee too great.
Sorry Tiff – we’ll have to ‘agree to differ’ on this one
Well Nicola you just have to be you and stand up for or against whoever you want. I’ve disagreed with the royalty before – LONG before I was a marketer. Just have balls. People DO respect that as long as you’re not rude.
And it’s Allen’s forum – he can charge a membership fee if he wants and you know the rules going in, so you don’t have to pay it if you don’t want to take the risk. I’ve read a million horror stories – in fact, WarriorForumSucks.com has a ton of them but he still likes me (I think lol) even though he knows my stance on WF.
See it’s statements like this that make me TOTALLY discount your opinion: “The WSO section is just a place for scammy ‘make money online’ marketers to peddle their scams now that Clickbank won’t have them.”
That’s a superlative statement where you’re blowing off all GOOD WSOs just because of the bad. Where’s the personal responsibility for you not buying crap and being a discerning shopper and someone willing to speak up and ask for a refund or post a bad review when it’s warranted? MY wso’s aren’t what you described above.And I don’t always JUST sell plr, either. I sell services, I sell courses – not one complaint.
We can definitely agree to differ. I just think it’s awful that some newbies are being scared off by alarmists when it’s totally not necessary. Many people have had great experiences and it’s something beneficial in the world of IM IF you know how to use it (like my post instructs).
tiff
“I just think it’s awful that some newbies are being scared off by alarmists when it’s totally not necessary.”
Tiff,
Your post was enough to scare me away from the WF! YOU wrote the post and started this whole thing.
These other people are just giving their insights which is perfectly fine. I don’t understand why you are acting so hostile towards readers who don’t love the WF. You mentioned a lot of negatives yourself in your post!
Sorry Seth – you must be new here? – but I don’t think anyone should be scared off by what I say. Geez there’s always intimidating things out there – if someone told me some tips on how to better navigate something I was afraid of, I’d be GRATEFUL!. I LOVE the other people’s opinions and Nicola has posted here forEVER and disagreed with me several times – she’s never afraid to disagree with me and she keeps coming back, so obviously I don’t scare her too bad with my “hostility.”And if you knew a thing about me, you’d know that wasn’t hostile at ALL. When I go hostile, you’ll know it
< –and see that little emoticon right there? It means I’m not hostile. It means I’m having a lively debate with someone.
(Even gave you one)
Tiff
Hey Seth,
Tiffany and I disagree and agree about many things, she’s not having a go at me don’t worry
I’ve had a bark at her before about promoting that place; but she knows I don’t bite 
Personally I think Tiffany is a really ethical marketer and I agree with many of her posts but when it comes to the WF I think she knows by now we’ll never see eye to eye
I just feel that there is a misconception about why people get banned; like they must have been abusive or committed some heinous cyber crime. This is simply not the case. I tried the WF for a while and I did call out a scammer, I asked her some questions which; if answered, would have revealed the scam to all. Next minute, I tried to log back in only to find a message telling me I was banned for 6 months.
No email was sent by them, which is a breach of their own TOS and there was no point of contact to ask for a refund. Isn’t this is a basic requirement by the FTC?
I once saw a newbie accidentally post in the wrong section; he was instantly banned – no warning, no moving his thread and giving the benefit of the doubt….hardly a sin! But it was what followed that really stuck in my throat. The mod who banned this poor chap (the one and only Paul Myers) went onto to hijack the thread boasting that he’d banned him and calling this person the most derogatory names – it was vile! The thread continued and was fueled by this numptys’ fan club who, like they always do, agreed with him.
I watched this going on and asked myself one question: “Nicola, do you really want to be associated with this kind of mentality and low life behavior?” I certainly wouldn’t choose friends who behaved like that let alone employ one as a moderator.
Each to their own but I do feel you should exercise caution when advocating great experiences on the WF. I joined up via your referral link so people do get influenced. I also did what you’re recommending people on here to do which is “speak up and ask for a refund or post a bad review when it’s warranted?”. I also did expressly say that the scams refer more to the ‘make money’ niche and not plr – I’ve never seen you post any WSO’s that are for ‘make money’ although I’m not discrediting your word on that.
Personally I think you’re taking a big business risk selling a credible product on there. It’s a bit like throwing a flawless diamond into a bucket of pig swill and expecting people to know it’s a diamond because *you* know you’re ethical. C’mon you teach about branding yourself you’ve got to see there’s a valid point here?
I stand by the WSO’s being scammy as the *majority* of them are. You wouldn’t find the likes of Andrew Hansen on there; and there’s a reason for that. Who would sell a method to make $3K per month for 15 minutes work for $7? I got hooked in because the scammers mates were all singing her praises so the scam seemed credible – it’s easily done especially when you’re new and searching for answers.
We could debate forever on this and still differ – that’s cool
Anyway, I keep well clear of the ‘make money online’ niche so no need for me to ever have to venture on there again….phew
And on that note, I’ll stop cluttering up your blog lol
- Nicola
Clutter away! And thanks for explaining – I love how some people “get me” like you and can argue with me and still be friends. LOL! That’s how my GOOD friends and family are – they have to be to put up with me
We just disagree, that’s all. And re: mods – I have a post on my blog about a “zap happy mod” who deleted one of my good threads. Stuff like that is unfair and annoys me but it’s not my place – it’s theirs. So I have to bend over and take it if I don’t like it. Or, speak out about it like I do. Anyway, I love it and will continue promoting it and I hope others find it useful too and those who don’t can come here instead. LOL!
Great topic Tiff
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I’ve read a lot of horror stories about The Warrior Forum but personally I’ve had a pretty good ride. I’ve had a few threads moved and deleted for posting in the wrong section/accidentally breaking the rules but that’s about it.
I’ve also had a lot of good things come out of The Warrior Forum. Every time I have a technical or IM themed question people have been more than helpful and I’ve managed to build my PLR business up from scratch using the WSO section.
Additionally, I’ve met a lot of good people there so overall I think it’s great
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On the WSO section, Nathan hit the nail on the head here. You just need to exercise some common sense. If an offer sounds too good to be true then it probably is. For example, if a WSO promises to make you $1,000 with 5 minutes work then the first two things that pop into my head are:
- Why is the author selling this for just $5?
- Why didn’t the author spend the time it took creating this WSO generating tens of thousands of dollars for himself instead?
If someone offline offered to sell me a $10 bill for $5 just $5 I would smell a scam straight away. It shouldn’t be any different online.
Tom
Exactly Tom. You’ve got it!
I agree with what you are saying in this post. I will try to tell everyone on I know about someone if I find that the people on my list would benefit from knowing them.
me too Gma
I admit I’ve learned lots of things about IM in WF than what I did in years from mailing lists to mailing lists. the banning horror is scary, but I’m actually more of a silent “good girl” type lately, so I don’t mind. There are members I dislike for giving misleading tips without proof, and several scumbags who’s scamming people right on their nose, but I’ve found several good marketers to follow.
Good Dora – glad you’re getting some use out of it
Nathan has some good point for newbies to consider before being frightened off forums.
Personally, I believe the forums end up reflecting the people who visit, participate, sell and buy… so if you are ethical in all those areas, enough of you visiting and participating will TAKE OVER the forum and raise the standards overall.
If we all stay away, the forums will continue to be controlled by the sharks feeding on Newbies entrails.
I first visited DigitalPoint forum in around 2006, and I successfully had the first 20 articles written that I used to promote my products, and have had a great experience in that forum… then later read that it was supposed to be the pits. WTH?
Thanks to Tiff I ventured onto the WF and have had success there as a Squidoo lens seller and have been mostly happy as a WSO buyer.
Nowadays it is a bit murkier than it was in 2008 but I believe that common sense (and the ability to control our personal greed instinct to buy GRQ products) is all it takes to stay reasonably safe.
Just use some common sense, and just like when buying stuff in the real world / stores, expect that not all things will live up to the sales promise, so put your big girl pants on and get over it. Many things have money back guarantee options, so use your buyer power and get your money back if you can.
My golden rule when shopping for ANYTHING; Never, ever, spend more money than you can afford to lose – and you should not have much to regret.
And remember, we can take over the forums if we wanted to, and make them a better place for all, so don’t be afraid to visit and inject your ethics and values into the place!
Love that golden rule Helene! Thanks for adding your $0.02