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Hi everyone! Well I didn’t get a THING done on my double dog dare last night. I was busy ghostwriting. But maybe tonight. I’m slower on my own stuff. I want to do part 4 of the Kindling course review because…well, I’m addicted, like many of you probably understand.

Quick update on my existing Kindle stuff: I don’t think you’re allowed to talk about downloads and all that publicly. But it’s going well today for me not having done much promo. All I did were the day OF tasks – none of the sites where you notify them a week in advance, etc.

I also bought an ad today on a site that promotes Kindle stuff – running 100k impressions for $50. I never usually pay for advertising but I want to test this type of business model out. The ad is supposed to run for 1 week. I’ll let you know how it goes. It starts July 2-July 8. Let’s get to reviewing the Kindling course…

Categories

Again, click on that main page. He explains how many categories you get for each book. This is basically a quick guide for you to see which categories are available. I prefer to look right on Amazon, but this is nice having it here for convenience.

Top 100

Here is a great lesson! He reassures us that you can make a ton of money not being here. And vice versa. I like his take on realism with our expectations, but also the way he explains that we can do fine w/out a scramble to a #1 spot. There’s some text and an audio. I used to not like audio but in here, I DO like it. I can listen as I look at his lesson.

He points out a genre message. I hear you, Geoff! I was shocked by what I heard about The Fifty Shades of Grey talent. (not from Geoff – I’m just saying it goes in line w/what his audio says).

Oh no. This message made me want to abandon what I’m working on now and do something else. I have such an urge and passion for it but it’s something I’m paralyzed with. We’ll see.

Selecting Categories

This is almost a lesson on what to avoid, Good tip. The update is from a common question people have asked him.

Okay Geoff is just feeding my addiction. I want to be mad at him for the next section but I can’t muster up the strength.

Singles

I had missed this and moved on to fiction, but I went back and read about it. Pretty neat idea and something to aim for here!

Fiction Writing

This is the main category page. Click on it. Wait. Let me wipe the drool from my mouth. I want this for myself SO bad but people – I SUCK at it. Seriously. I’m frozen with a fear unlike anything you’ve ever THOUGHT you had with Internet marketing.  But here he is reassuring me.

I don’t believe him. But I want to.

He has us click out to a page about a specific author. He has us download her free book. I did. He says something that shocks me considering her success. I WANT THAT! Ha ha he digs at WSOs and it’s funny. Oh he quoteth something that is aimed at me. He’s spying on me!

I’m whining right now wanting to do this.

Planning

This makes me realize I’m going to need to have a pen name for what I want to do with fiction. No way am I branding this first try out under my own name. LOL!

I’m taking notes about length, etc. He’s grounding me again – and I don’t mean in a bad way. He has this way of calming me down with his instructions, whether I’m too excited or too panicked.  At the same time what he says revs me up.

Oh. My. God. He has a simple way for us to get going. The part that says, “Just ask…” I do that all the time in my real life so why not making this my protocol for a story?

I have to click out for some genre training and then come back to the main page to finish my fiction training.

Fiction Genres

This is actually a page that’s later down in this category but he said to read it now, so I will. And my genre (contemporary fiction) doesn’t fit in the top 10. Uh oh. lol.

Oh cool he gives a gigantic list of fiction genres – some I hadn’t heard of! I could combine that into my contemporary.

No Longer Popular Genres

I go back to the main training again and continue on with the second page. I like the way he helps us find twists.

At This Stage You Are No Longer a Fiction Writer

Page 3 of the main lesson. How funny. I did this the other day on my personal FB wall to my family and childhood friends. It was part of my LOA belief (I only have a tiny belief) where you live life as what you want has already happened.

Ideas: The Seeds of a Story

Page 4. First sentence right off the bat has me freaking out. ACK! Oh I suck so bad. I am on the bottom of the page answering his questions. I have my crisis in mind. When I try to answer what makes it different I’m stuck. Nothing makes it different – or different from what? I like this genre because it’s real life stuff – ordinary real stuff that happens.

Okay I have to move on to see if he can get me UNstuck. I can’t believe how much Kindling is unnerving me in a good way.

Plotting

I’m so glad to be here. Oh gosh he has big red bold numbers 1-10. I’m scared. Y’all don’t usually see me so weak in the knees, do you? I’m usually a bull in a China shop – telling you to just do it, ignore the haters, etc. Well here I am shaking like a leaf!

I am stuck on #4. I don’t know how it’ll get resolved. LMAO Okay my son Shawn was what iffing with me and the plot he came up with is hilarious and so off the wall it’s impossible. That was fun though – took the pressure off for a second. I finally discovered how it was slightly different. Not really, it’s real.

I did it! I stopped and took a bath. I didn’t take a book in with me tonight but instead I stared up at the ceiling. Before getting in the bath I asked my husband and all 3 of my kids about my what if question – how they thought I would react to my what if if I were the character. I wanted to know from them how they thought I would RESOLVE it – since that’s where I was stuck.

They all said the same thing. I wouldn’t. I’d be a zombie (not literally) for life or wind up in prison. LOL! They’re right. So when I took a bath, I went through it. I couldn’t see a way out and then it struck me – take my crisis down a notch! Aha! That did it. Now I have a crisis that, although it would devastate me when it happened, and thankfully it never has (knock on wood), it’s something I WOULD be able to recover from. Whew!

I feel SO good now! You have NO idea.

I got to #5 and plotted out 2 additional people besides my main character.

With #6 I have a neat list – made a simple pros/cons type list right down the middle of the page.

I mapped out #7 – oh my God it’s so easy like this!

#8 – not really. There’s a start of something as friendship which you assume will go further but you’re not told that.

#9 was really cool. I literally did a zig zag across my paper.  Each column zig zagged to the next item across the page.

#10 Love this! I have about 8 main ones and I plan to expand these into sub zig zags when I flesh out my story.

This was SUCH a neat fiction writing segment!!

I want to cry I’m so happy – but I won’t because I’m too happy!

Putting It Together

This section is empty and says coming soon. I know he’s always adding to this membership and I’m so happy about that.

Proofing

I debated whether or not to put this off until I wrote my story but I figured it’s not necessary yet. Good tip here because I am GUILTY as charged.

Oh people – read what he says under the bold “Don’t do that” sentence. HELLO!? How true is THAT little piece of advice? He gives us some advice on a common mistakes issue. Hope I won’t have that.

Ha! Re: it’s a girl thing. Yes it is ;)

I love the “Help them out” advice. Very true – as a reader, I like this advice! Oh my gosh I loved this section.

Promoting

This section? No truer words have ever been spoken. THIS is the place where:

  • Most Kindle writers will fail because they don’t do it and…
  • Typical scumbag marketers will get busted trying to game the system.

After those tips he tells us he’s extracted promotion for its own section – yea! Love it.

Writing Styles

GREAT tip, people! And this is the same with ALL of your make money online efforts. It’s WHY I convert so high. It’s why you’re reading this long ass blog post. The paragraph that starts with “I have no doubt…” – that’s the way I think about EVERYTHING (except fiction lol – why can’t I have that attitude about fiction? I will try to now).

Okay for the first time I see a promotion for something – software. Because I’m trusting Geoff so much now I may get this.  Well poo they have NO screen shots to show me what it’s all about. Just some sales copy. That stinks. I might research.

I love the heading he’s talking about critics cringing at. I want to cry at that. 30 years of paralyzation because I was taught about traditional editors and agents and publishers.

LOVE the words in between the red arrows. Is anyone else crying when they take this course? I’m a dork. I’m crying. This is a life changing breakthrough for me, this whole section.

Perspective

BAM! Another section speaking to me like it knows what I need. Where he says “Remember this…” that’s me. That’s where these tears come from. 30 years of being handcuffed by that. Love his colorful language on occasion. Especially when he calls someone a sausage. That sounds hilarious – I must use that and confuse my friends here!

I’m done tonight.

I’m going to go to bed on Cloud 9. I feel such relief.  Y’all may think I’m ridiculous, but if you only knew how many times I’ve sat here so sad about not being able to do this process. And tonight I did it.

It’s like I broke free and now I am unstoppable. Just watch me.

I’m going to say on record that even if this was the END of the course, it will have been worth way more than I paid and I would highly recommend it. Even the tips I picked up from before have helped my promo I’m sure!

By the way, I’m #1 in my category, #2 in the sub category, and #163 overall on Kindle free eBooks tonight as my promo winds down – and I ONLY did same day promotion, no advanced planning. Can’t thank Paula enough for that – and for kicking my butt repeatedly to go buy Kindling.

I owe you, girl (if you’re reading this).

Tiff ;)

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64 Responses to “Geoff Shaw Kindling Course Review Part 4”

  • Pete Moring says:

    Ha-Ha :-)

    Don’t take this the wrong way Tiff, but the way you’ve written this blog post you might think about writing for the ‘Erotica’ market.

    ;-) Just joking, but I think we all know how you feel.

  • Hey Tiff,

    Cool to read that you’re writing fiction. I took the fiction writing plunge too! My first book “The Asset” has just gone through a second round of professional editing. And I’m 25,000 words into my second fiction novel. It is life changing. :-)

    My first book should be ready to self publish on Amazon in July. It’s taken me over a year so far (from zero words to just about ready for prime time). But the second one is going a lot faster! Whew.

    Here is my Facebook page I setup for it: (not much there yet):

    http://www.facebook.com/AlanPetersenBooks

    I’m looking forward to seeing how your fiction book turns out! Good luck.

    Alan

  • Britt Malka says:

    Hi Tiff,

    Kindling sounds interesting, but it’s expensive, I think. It’s at $77, but I can see in the thread that it has been priced much lower. I just didn’t notice the product back then. Did you get in at a lower price?

    I bought Paul Coleman’s product about how to sell Kindle books. It’s starting out really great, but we’re waiting for new modules.

    I wonder if I “need” (oh, shiny shiny thing) this one, also. Or not. I have Michelle Spiva’s brilliant book about writing fiction, plus thousands of others, but hers stand out. Can Geoff do better?

    By the way, Tiff, you write “(except fiction lol – why can’t I have that attitude about fiction? I will try to now).”

    Now, TRY to pick up that pencil on your table.

    No, no, I didn’t say “pick it up”, I said “try to pick it up”.

    You can’t.

    You can either do it or not do it.

    Hypnotists use that word in their sessions. “You feel totally relaxed now and your eye lids are feeling heavy. You try to keep your eyes open, but you can’t. Your eyes are closing now. No matter how much you try, you cannot open your eyes. Try to open your eyes… you can’t.”

    Etc :D

    So stop trying and start doing. (One of my mottos.)

    • Tiffany says:

      Hey Britt! Normally I’d say it’s expensive but I bought it at $77 and it’s the MOST worth it course I have ever taken and I’d pay 5 times the amount. I’m 100% serious, too. I know he started it off at less because he had much less in there. He’s also said it’s increasing when he adds more and he did tell me he’s working on another big exciting thing for us.

      I can’t say how it compares to the other courses. I only know everyone’s told me this is the best and I can’t imagine anything better. lol

      PS I get the try message :) Thanks for kicking my butt!

  • Debi J says:

    This was such a cool post to read. I haven’t even gotten to where you are inside Kindling, I have no idea what half of what you wrote meant, but it was exciting to see how elated you are regardless!

    Of course some of that comes from the thought of “yay, Miss Tiffany, a proud member of the multi-tasking, can’t land on one thing long or she gets bored, has found her niche… she’s landed and she’s gonna stay focused for a while (a long while even)”. Now the rest of the sisterhood can follow suit…whew! LOL (No offense to the guys…they’re always welcome in MY sisterhood meetings!).

    Looking forward to reading your pen name’s first #1 Seller!!

    • Tiffany says:

      LOL Some things I don’t flit on – like PLR. I’ve done that for years. Same with ghostwriting (off and on). Same with info products.

      Oddly enough those are what I myself wrote courses on! LOL!

      But this has been a childhood dream, so I don’t see it being a flash in the pan.

      I’m so happyyyyyy!

      • Debi J says:

        Even when you have “flitted”, it’s been a good thing! While I’ve been learning and making a small dent in the “I wanna be like Tiff” when I grow up mode, you’ve shown me that it’s ok to start something, find out you don’t like it or that it doesn’t spark that passion that you’ve got now, and drop it like a hot potato!

        For someone like me who’s tried SO many things in so many areas, that lifted an enormous weight off my mind. I think I’d gotten to the point of feeling that, whether it interested me or not… whether it sparked passion in me or not… the next thing I started I’d have to glue myself to till the death so I can “prove” to people that I’m not wishy-washy, or unfocused, or unable to follow thru (or any of those other nasty things I get tired of hearing from friends or family who just don’t get it!).

        You gave me a light at end of the tunnel Tiff, even when (and sometimes especially when) you started a new project outside of your standard faves (PLR, Info Products, Ghostwriting, Product Reviews, and Newbie Education), found out it wasn’t right for you and got rid of it.

        So flit, stick to or revamp anything you want gal…I’m sticking around to continue to move your direction! (Although this whole make me tear up thing could maybe use some revamping) j/k ;)

        I see a day in the near future when many of us will be saying… “I knew her when she was only WANTING to be a fiction writer…now she’s a #1 best-seller!” YAY!

        • Tiffany says:

          I agree. It’s okay to move around as long as something gets completed ;) YEA!! When I’m the next JK Rowling or Danielle Steele I’ll throw us a party and fly y’all to my Hamptons home or something. LOL!

  • Of course I’m reading this! ;) SO happy for you! Know what? You’ve been so wonderful to so many and so authentic with who you are…THIS is why I even felt I could keep after you “just a bit”. I mean I kinda felt like I do with my own sister right now (same way about getting her into writing)…THIS biz was made for you. I believe with all my heart that you will do VERY well with this – FICTION included! I can’t wait to hear about how you surprise yourself. P.S. I love this sentence — “It’s like I broke free and now I am unstoppable. Just watch me.” – You go girl!! I think I speak for many when I say, we are watching and celebrating with you! :)

    • Tiffany says:

      Thanks Paula! You weren’t the only one who told me to get his course, but you had just enough honey badger in you to nip at me until I did it. (Sometimes I’m stubborn). I am so excited even today…can’t wait to start writing what I want to!

  • Hey Tiff … I really am wishing you the very best with you new life changes.

    It’s kinda cool when you actually break through a personal barrier and 30 years wow I bet you were welling up :)

    Your writing is an awesome talent and I am sure that now you have unleashed the beast in you that honey badger will be eaten alive as a new persona will develop .. who knows what the next 12 months will bring any of us, but with a new burst of focused passion, we all know that the sky IS the limit.

    GREAT achievement on your best seller status Tiff, nuff respect x

  • Jen says:

    Oh Tiff, I’m so happy for you!! :)
    Can’t wait to get stuck into this course…I’m chomping at the bit! Again, thank you so much for reviewing this, I wouldn’t have bought it otherwise…You rock! Now go kick some fiction butt!

  • Minna says:

    I know what you mean. I’ve felt the almost exact same way with Internet Marketing for years. Seriously. I see my relationship with it changing now because I was able to change the story or narrative I was telling myself about it.

    My theme song today (that’s the song that I wake up hearing in my head) is Usher U Got It Bad. That link leads to the official video on Youtube.

    You’ve got it bad for fiction. I’ve got it bad for IM. It’s good when you’ve got it bad and willing to admit it.

    It’s freeing. Your excitement is contagious. I can’t wait to read your Kindle creations.

    • Tiffany says:

      Thanks Minna! I too have a passion for marketing – I think because so many teach unethical behavior. But for me, THIS…fiction…it’s been a childhood dream. So it weighs more than my IM. I’m glad you’re feeling the U Got It Bad vibe! That’s a great feeling to have.

  • Eddie Gilbert says:

    Hey Tiff,

    I *told* ya you were gonna *love* Geoff’s ‘fiction’ section…

    You go, Girl!

    Go forth, and conquer…

    :-)

    Eddie

  • Yoan says:

    This sounds soooo promising! Well done, Tiffany! It is promising for us too! Thanks for the review + update! Will definitely look into it! Wish I had your energy though, you seem ON FIRE!lol !Yoan xxxx

  • Jennifer says:

    So proud of you for pushing beyond your comfort level, Tiff. What a great model for the rest of us!

  • Peggy Baron says:

    Hi Tiff,
    I’m so happy for you! Getting unstuck in your brain IS life-changing. :)

    Question – Is Kindling a good program if you’re not interested in writing fiction? Is it worth the price if I just want to do non-fiction?

    I’m in the first editing phase of my book and I seem to be slowing down to a crawl now.

    Peggy

  • Nancy says:

    Tiff,

    I know exactly how you feel, and I’m excited for you! It’s awesome when doors open up for us and we see a whole new world ahead. It can be like a huge weight being lifted.

    Now you have me thinking again about the fiction story I’ve had in the back of my mind. I know it’s not time for it yet, though, but at least now I won’t discard the possibility altogether.

  • You made me cry. I am SO happy for you, Tiff!

    I felt the same way about fiction – I didn’t think I could ever do it. Then I purchased Michelle Spiva’s course, and that combined w/Geoff’s Kindling helped me move forward.

    Two weeks ago I decided to clear out some boxes of books that have been packed for over TWO years. In those boxes I found 2 books on writing fiction that I purchased TWELVE years ago. I’ve been wanting to write fiction for that long…I just never believed I could… could be creative enough to write interesting stories that people would love to read — stories that would help them escape and feel happy (I’m sappy like that!)

    And now I am! My first book was a novella (just over 22,000 words) and I published it at the end of May. Now I’m writing book 2 in the series and it will likely be a NOVEL! How crazy is that?!

    I’ve never been happier and this morning before reading your blog post I was sitting at the kitchen table drinking my coffee and thinking that I need to write Amazon and thank them.

    Thank them because my dream is coming true in part because of them, and the amazing opportunity they give us to self publish our writing/books for FREE on their platform in front of millions of ready-to-buy customers.

    There are moments when I let myself wish for just a second that I had taken action sooner – but you know what? I am writing now, and that’s what matters.

    Thanks for sharing your journey with us Tiff. It is SO inspiring, and I think I can safely say that we all love you, and it is heart warming to see you really happy and finding a new direction that is obviously so right for you.

    I can’t wait to read your fiction. You’re a great writer, and I FEEL what you write.

    Warmly,
    Kate

    • Tiffany says:

      Aww lol! I’ll have to check out Michelle’s course later too. I also have to credit the Dummie’s Guide to Writing a novel by Tom Monetleone. He got me started w/believing I could do it – his advice is not traditional stuffy publishing house crap. I love his attitude and am friends w/him on FB and he interacts w/us, etc. Love it.

      I agree on thanking Amazon! What a gift – and making it FREE for us? Unbelievable. I too wish I’d found this freedom earlier but that’s okay!

      I’m so glad you and some others “get me.” LOL! Makes it less embarrassing to have these breakthroughs.

  • Tiff,

    One more recommendation. The 3rd person that has just begun to have enormous impact on my writing is Holly Lisle. If you google her you’ll see her “sideways thinking” course and for $30 (one time fee) you can tap into all of her short courses.

    Truthfully, even just getting on her list is worthwhile. She’s an amazing woman and teacher.

    Happy writing!!
    Kate

  • Mary says:

    Hi Tiff
    GREAT post! Congrats on your burgeoning success with the veggie book.

    LOVE your walking us through the fiction writing. I, too, have always wanted to do fiction, but thought, of course, that i can’t do it.

    I bought Geoff’s course the other day when you posted it and find his instructions extremely helpful and his confidence that we can do it contagious!

    This is a very exciting journey for all of us as new doors begin to open.

    Thanks!
    Mary

  • Cindi says:

    Hi Tiffany,

    What did I tell you you about that fiction section-huh? Did it blow your mind?-lol! Isn’t it the best? I am so happy for you that you finally found it! Check out the Marshall Software Geoff recommends-WOW!

    Take care (and don’t get writer’s cramp-lol)!

    Cindi

    • Tiffany says:

      It DID Cindi! It DID! LOL! You were right. Again! You use the software? There are no screen shots of it anywhere! Made me not buy yet.

      • Cindi says:

        Hi Tiff,

        I emailed you with the video tutorials for the software. It walks you through the whole thing. I’ve played around with it a bit, and I like what I see so far. I’m involved in coaching with a mentor right now until September. I haven’t really had time to dive in full force yet.

        I know I will enjoy getting back into fiction writing though. It’s only been 40 years! Where the hell does time go anyway?

        Take care!

        Cindi

  • Edie Dykeman says:

    Aren’t breakthroughs cool? Glad to see you so excited about your new venture. It appears you have received a breath of fresh air in your life now after years of hard work. You deserve it!

  • Mike says:

    Tiffanny,

    Glad to hear you’ve had an…wait for it…epiphany!

    Were allowed stupid humor on Fridays :)

    A couple questions:

    1. Is there a “flow chart” for Geoff’s Kindling course? I purchased the course but I’m a bit overwhelmed with the info. I assume the first page then the “noob” section?

    2. What’s your feeling for the amount of money that can be made by an average person publishing to Kindle – following Geoff’s course? I want to have realistic financial goals.

    Much Grass!

    Mike :)

    • Tiffany says:

      LOL! We are!

      1. I started left sidebar and just went straight down the page. Some people follow along with my review AS they do the course and it might help.

      2. Now you know me – I never guess amounts! LOL – but I can see it being profitable. He says you can become rich and never have a bestseller. I can totally see that! I know someone who wrote several short books and she’s making over $3k a month to start.

  • This is good stuff! Glad you are getting to write fiction as your childhood dream! I have not gotten there yet – no time right now. But it is creeping in my mind! Good luck and thanks for all the info on Kindling!

  • Katie says:

    Tiff I’ve been thinking about fiction a lot, too. I am a fantastic instructional writer and when working for others, I’m pretty great at marketing, too. When it comes to my own stuff, however, I never seem to have the same brilliance for the marketing aspect. Maybe I should hire myself LOL.

    Because I wrote so many technical manuals and training course programs over the years, I learned to be pretty succinct, which doesn’t necessarily translate well to fiction. I was reading a Dean Koontz book the other day, however, and noticed consciously where and how he added the descriptive parts that fleshed out the story and made it more interesting and flowing. Heck, I can do that!!

    We’ve been pretty busy since getting back to the US, but you are inspiring me to go back through Geoff’s stuff and just get started again.

  • Katie says:

    P.S. It’s also got me thinking about shifting some of my ebooks and programs that need updating anyway. I’m thinking that using Amazon may be the best way of marketing the evergreen aspects of what I’ve already written – especially if I’m updating the content.

  • Phil Hirtes says:

    Tiffany,

    The Marshall Plan software site used to have screen shots and a couple videos, but they recently changed the format. However, there are some of the overview videos on YouTube. Check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3w-V5HY6d4 or search on Marshall Plan Software.

    Phil

  • Sydney says:

    Tiff,

    I’m thrilled for you. I have one question…there are only 24 hours in the day, right? LOL…I can’t for the life of me figure out where you get all this energy to write, blog, review and answer all of us! I so appreciate all you do for us but for me (an under-achiever compared to you) I feel intimidated about this Kindling endeavor. I haven’t had 2 minutes to spend on the site; yet you’re almost done and still doing a ton of other things. How do you do this!!!! Please share Super-HoneyBadger-Woman!

    • Tiffany says:

      Yes and lately I have been working my BUTT off. When I’m passionate, it’s not work. It’s fun. But right now I’m working on ghostwriting primarily. LOL! Doing this my last hour of the day.

  • Bev says:

    ha! I agree with Sydney. How do you fit all that into one day – or one hour, Tiff? Makes me feel positively lazy even if I’ve had my nose to the grindstone for eight or ten hours writing articles for others. By the time that last hour comes along I feel too brain dead to do anything of use for myself, lol.

  • Sandor says:

    Hi Tiff,

    You told us a great news. I can imagine how you feel. And your joy is our joy as well.:)

    I believe you learnt physics and experiments were carried out in your study group.

    I remember what the iron filings did near a magnet. Approaching with a magnet to the iron filings, you have seen how they are hurried irresistibly to that device.

    Please don’t get me wrong, but seems to me that you’re that magnet now attracting the success to yourself.:)

    This is all right. You gained new meaning in your life. Goooooo Girl!!!

    Cheers,:)

    Sandor

  • Your enthuisiasim and excitement alone made me get off my butt and invest in Geoff’s WSO at $77 i am sure it will be a great investment

    Thanks Tiff for sharing and good luck(not that you needed) with your ‘Fiction’

    I know one day i will post on your blog announcing the birth of my First Book Dont know when dont know how but sure going to happen

    Cheers
    Charles

  • Yogi says:

    this training is SOOOO not in my budget right now…I have two trips coming up that I’m planning for starting in two weeks…but it sounds like some very good information…..I may have to cut some corners and count some pennies and just take the risk….I hate spending more than $20 on WSOs though…..hmmmm….:-) thanks for sharing your review btw…..

    • Tiffany says:

      Well I guarantee you won’t regret it. I swear – normally I tell people just wait but he DID raise the price as new training was up and he may again so I would!

  • Yogi says:

    Just join!!! I figured if I’m really serious about my writing & increasing my income then I need to invest in my education!!! thanks Tiff! All the best!!!

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