JV Weeding Requires Hurt Feelings
January 23rd, 2010 | 
Author: I am not one to hurt anyone’s feelings. It makes me feel awful, so whenever possible, I avoid it. But sometimes it can’t be avoided, no matter how hard you try. I get approached for an endless supply of joint ventures by marketers – whether it’s something as simple as letting someone guest blog on my blog or as powerful someone asking me to promote their product.
Let me tell you what happened to me this week without naming names.
Someone who I didn’t know approached me asking me to promote his product. In his email, he stated what it did and basically said I stood to make a lot of money promoting it.
I visited the site. It’s almost a $100 product. For that amount of money, it’d better knock my socks off. So I emailed back and said, “But all I can see is that it does this ____ – what ELSE does it do?” Because what I had seen didn’t warrant the price tag.
He emailed me back stating that so-and-so (a big name marketer you all know) was promoting it soon and that HE saw value in it, so surely I’d love it. Well you know me, so-and-so doesn’t do it for me. So I said, “If you want to send me a review of the tool, I’ll try it out.”
He did. I installed. I used it. I still didn’t see the $100 benefits. So I watched the video about it. After that, after seeing how he used it, I was even more convinced that it wasn’t worth $100. So I emailed him back, letting him know I’d uninstalled it (it’s the ethical thing to do FYI if you get a freebie like that), and I explained why I wouldn’t be promoting, even offering a suggestion on how to possibly make the tool WORTH that price tag.
Now how many marketers do you know who do this? I hope you’ll be one. This tool is PERFECT for my audience. If I promoted it, you’d understand why – it’s targeted to you – and if I wrote a really good review, tossing some make money words in there, you might even trust me enough to shell out $100 for it, sticking a cool $50 or more in my pocket per sale.
But I didn’t. It’s NOT all about money.
It’s about maintaining my own standards. It’s about looking out for all you wonderful people who follow my lead and who email me when I’m having a bad day, and who do trust me enough to buy what I recommend, whether it’s my products or someone else’s.
I hope this guy is thick skinned and doesn’t take it personally. I’m sure he’s very proud of his product, and it’s a neat tool! But he may not understand the way I’m protective of you. You all know my Mom is right in the audience with you. If I wouldn’t advise her to buy it, I wouldn’t advise you to. Period.
If you teach others in ANY niche, I hope you do the same. Don’t look at dollar signs. Look at your reputation and if you truly want to help people, the money will follow later.
Tiff
Posted in Internet Marketing
Bravo Tiffany Dow!!
You did the RIGHT thing.
It’s about your subscribers and your customers.
There is nothing else.
Just them.
Look out for their best interests…it’s
ALWAYS right, and in the long run, will
ALWAY make the income you need.
Kudos to you. There are so many affiliate sluts out there who will promote absolutely anything that pays well. I struggle with being an affiliate but have found a few people who offer value and you’re certainly one of them. I’ll be putting up a new review site soon with detailed descriptions of products and yours will always be high on my list. Thanks for being honest.
LOL Susan you coined a great new title – affiliate sluts. Oh how I wish I could blast an email with that title, but I would offend SO many people…
Excellent post! To quote Rob Roy “Intergrity is the gift you give yourself.”
So much of what is out there is NOT worth the money and so many others are simply trying to scam people without offering solid advice
Thank you for standing up!
Belimnda
Pretty rare – totally agree. And, that is why I have pared my list of internet “mentors” I subscribe to down to a handful. It’s all about trust and ethics to me regardless of the money to be made.
Thanks for being true to what you believe in and your audience. You are right, you hit it exactly – people would purchase solely on your recommendation. But few see the accountability you do in that.
Tiffany,
I think the IM community in general needs more ethical marketers like you – if everyone operated ethically, we wouldn’t see so many overpriced (and often worthless) products pushed down everyone’s throats. Thanks for setting a high standard!
Hi there Tiff,
Great post… I like your honesty and the effort you were willing to go to really give the product a fair shot. Your willingness to offer some positive feedback and critique to the product owner shows that you truly DO have a heart to see him succeed, just not with you on the bandwagon. If he has some sense he will listen to your wisdom and make his product even better, not only to meet the $100 value, but to his long-term success for HIM and JV Partners and ultimately his END CUSTOMERS…! Don’t kill the goose for the 1 golden egg, right?
Many Blessings,
Jerold
Los Angeles, CA
You are awesome, Tiffany
Tiff–I think you did the right thing. Whatever it was, if YOU didn’t think it was worth $100 for US to spend, then I’m sure you’re right.
I wish there were an ethical way for you to tell us the Names of the marketers you DON’T like, so we could have that knowledge too–instead of discovering the bad apples by hard knocks! But, big Sigh, there probably isn’t a way to reveal names w/o causing harm–to yourself & them.
Oh well, thanks for watching out for us in this instance.
Susi that wouldn’t be nice to do that because then it would just turn into a big bash-fest. I’d create a lot of enemies. I have to go about it a different way and just tout the ones I do believe in. Now if someone emails me and asks in private, I might give my opinion, but I won’t publicly name names. LOL
Two thumbs up for Tiff.
Great advice. Know who you are, what you stand for and people will respect you for it.
I cannot help but think that that guy has even won some respect for who you are and perhaps his learning is not over yet.
Integrity goes a long way.
Tiffany, it is very encouraging to know that there are marketers out here that are not just after the almighty dollar. I believe in giving my audience something of value and I have to agree with you, I would not put my name behind someone elses product if I did not believe it was worth the price being charged.
In 18 months of studying this biz and being on, it seems EVERY email list of IM’ers, I have now unsubscribed from every list except two, yours being one of them. I am so grateful to have found two honest IM marketers who are truly looking out for their customers. I figure you and (the other one) are in the know and will tell me when something’s (a) worth the money and (b) worth it to me NOW, at this stage of my business development.
You da goddess.
Well said Tiffany. If he knew or read anything from you in the past he’ll appreciate your position. Certain folks have more credibility than others, but that’s my opinion. Keep up your standards, and we will keep following you!
Stick to your way, Tiffany!
I just finished reading and watching videos
of a product I bought based on Warrior Forum
reviews/comments. It is Bum marketing wrapped
around the hottest topic of the day: CPA!
For $50 the only new thing it told me is getting
a sale angle from ezine directories. The entire
product can be summed up with a 10-minute video
or 1-page pdf document.
I’ll not ask for a refund. Instead I want it to
be my first 2010 lesson because I ignored the
warning signs in those Warrior reviews.
Anyway, I vote Yes for what you did!
Tif It’s great to see the integrity you have. This is found on the internet far to often. This is why I follow your advice.
Wow, it’s amazing to see that people still do have morals. It really increases the trust factor and you’re such a great example for many of us who aspire to make it in this game!
Yes! You did the right thing Tiffany. We are not in the “people pleaser” business. But,yes, we are in an awesome business and for those that take business personal, have no business being in business; those people should just check to see if Walmart is hiring, PERIOD!
JC
As Suze Orman said, “..keep in your life only those people who have your best interests at heart..”. When applying it to business, you’ll have customers for life because of it.
Good for you. I wish all of the internet marketers were so ethical. I admire what you do and how you do it.
Barbara
Good on you Tiff – thanks for looking out for us.
I’m intrigued to know though – would you have promoted the product at a lower price point?
Clare – as I said, it’s a neat tool – it does do something cool for convenience, so if it had a “convenience” price point, sure! But that would be like $27 or under. For $97, it’d better do something I’d shell out $100 for. It’s not that the product was BAD, just not enough.
This is a big reason why I have so much respect for you – you always take the high road. 99.9% of the email I get from other internet marketers ends up in the trash file without being read, but I *always* read yours. I know if you are endorsing a product or service, I can trust you to give an honest and informed opinion. Keep up the great work!
I think you handled yourself very well and did the right thing. A product doesn’t necessarily have to be bad to hurt your reputation – but if it’s overpriced and under delivers for the the price or only copies something you can do for free, then I completely agree that you shouldn’t promote that product. Being formal and polite isn’t the same as being curt, and if you’re going to do well in business, the word “no” can’t be something that sends you into a tail spin. Seems like you handled it all quite well to me.
Absolutely spot on Tiff.
There was one phrase which summed up why I admire what you do:
“You all know my Mom is right in the audience with you. If I wouldn’t advise her to buy it, I wouldn’t advise you to.”
That sums up your ethical approach and is the reason I trust you so much and buy from you – now and then
There is so much mis-information out there that Newbies fall prey to. I am happy that you told that guy about his product. He may sincerely have been in love with his little baby and when So-and-So Guru gave it the green light, he of course gushed even more.
It is about the Emperors New Clothes and I am glad you woke that guy up-potentially. Maybe he might actually figure it out when he has a 60% return rate. That is the sad but true reality if you decide to peddle crapola.
Thanks for being the voice of sanity. Since I have stumbled across you, your emails are ones I do not delete, but actually read.
Brilliant. That’s why I trust you.
I think that is what makes you stand out in a crowd. Not that others wouldn’t do the same, but you shared the fact that this wouldn’t be in our best interest.
Integrity is what keeps the cream rising.
Now, I KNOW I’m following the right person!
AMEN SISTER!!
Thanks so much Tiffany.
I have allowed myself to be suckered into buying so many of these programs that were touted by other “so-called Gurus” to be EXACTLY what I needed to earn big $$$ and get my business off the ground–and they got the dough!
My VA and I were discussing the 52 week squidoo program and you yesterday. We discussed how we thought that your ideas and concepts were right on but most importantly, we really admired your integrity and authenticity.
What you did with your JV person and what you do all the time is admirable. You should feel proud of yourself.
You’ve got to be true to yourself, Tiff. If it felt right, it was the right thing to do.
However,if you’d promoted it, your subscribers would have had the chance to judge this “neat tool” for themselves. Buyer beware and all. No doubt some would have blamed you if they didn’t like it. Personally I take responsibility for the stuff I buy. I take the blame if it is not right for me or if I did not use it properly – I never blame the person who recommended it. Never quite understood that concept. How can you blame the recommender?
However wonderful you are, you do NOT know anything about what niches we’re in, how techie we are, how many hours we have to spend online a day etc etc. You just made a recommendation on the basis of how this product suits you. YOU thought it was pricey. Had you said “this is a touch overpriced, but if it’s what you are looking for, it does exactly what it says on the tin”, we all would have been able to decide for ourselves.
I prefer being treated like an adult and allowed to make my own decisions in the light of your qualifying comments. I usually put what you say into the mix when I make a decision, but I do NOT follow you blindly. From the comments on your blog, you seem to have an intelligent following, so I would guess I am not alone in this.
Do what you feel comfortable with. It’s why we love you.
Hey Susan!
You’re right about you – but sooo many people especially those just starting out – would see that as an endorsement, not as simply a “hey I found this tool.” And many who are desperate to get ahead would ignore the part that said, “if you need this, etc” and email me saying they bought it because someday they might need it. I see your point. And if you want to know what the tool is, I’ll tell you via email – but there’s also the flip side of responsibility I have to email things I think have value and IMO it didn’t to the degree of $97. Worth maybe is the right word. It didn’t have worth for that amount, regardless of f you’re rich or poor.
Tiff:
This post is SOOOOOOOOO timely, it ISSSSSSSSSSS spooky!
Not three hours ago I was discussing a similar situation that made me leery to put my name behind a product or service without being upfront about it! The product is excellent and the price is reasonable, but there was another factor that disturbed me!
So yes… I guess I am like you! I do care enough to be upfront!
Roz
Hey Tiff – just occurred to me.
You could negotiate with the marketer for a “special price” whereby you waive your commission for your list. That way, YOU recommend a “neat tool”, WE get a hefty discount, HE gets the same revenue (he would have got for an affiliate sale) and increased sales and YOU get the hyper goodwill and increased loyalty from your list for doing such a wonderful thing for us.
Bet you next time, you’d reap the rewards financially!
Just a thought….
I wouldn’t mind doing that either but I guarantee there’s no way he’ll go to $27 or so. This is something very basic that you can do yourself.
Bravo. You did the right thing. I do an incredible about of research before i buy products online–especially marketing products. I am raging thunder lizard evangelists for things that work; anything less is snake oil.
Good for you Tiffany. You did the honorable thing
Hi Tiffany,
Thank you so much for this post.
I’ve just spent the last week sifting through 2000+ emails and un-subscribing like crazy from dozens of online marketers’ mailing lists.
Why?
For the very reason you mention here: they are all looking at how much money they can make off of me, without really considering if what they’re peddling is of any real value to ME. In fact, I’d bet the majority of them haven’t even used or even checked out most of the products they’re trying to sell me.
In the midst of all this, I just subscribed to your list, because you seemed “different”. Now, I know that you are. Yours is one list I’ll stay subscribed to.
Thanks for your honesty and integrity, and for caring about your subscribers BEFORE your bottom line.
Bernie
PS. Nice job on your Mom’s blog.
I’m with you, Tiff. I have turned down JVs in the past if I didn’t feel the information/product/service was worth the $$ investment to the consumer.
I am a free market capitalist, but I sometimes wonder if the reason these folks offer a 50% commission is because the product is really only worth 50% of the pricetag.
I sell physical goods, too, and it’s always hard for me because when I sell my jewelry I price it to adequately reflect the overhead I have (cost of the artist fair, insurance, my website, etc.). Yet a retail seller wants to use my price as his/her selling price, so therefore wants to cut my price by 30-40%. Since I don’t build in a buffer, the only consistent resolution I have in that case is to price my items as if they were in a retail store and to offer customers a “discount” for buying directly from me. It doesn’t make a lot of sense, but it is fair to the customer.
This is why we trust you, Tiffany.
Thank you!
Hey Tiff,
You know you did the right thing.
I wish more online marketers would would follow the same approach! The fact that you are not prepared to compromise your business values and standards for the sake of short-term gain will only boost your credibility as a honest and ethical marketer. And, this is much more valuable than any short-term gain can ever be.
As a matter of interest, your post does not make me see you in a different light. It only reinforces my already positive perception of you as a honest, ethical and caring marketer. A very rare breed in the world of online marketing.
You’re doing a great job helping other people!
Kind Regards,
Francois
You did a good thing, Tiff!
I’m sometimes crazy checking out all those products myself. I’ve been much more picky lately though…
Thanks.
Marian
Hi Tiffany,
You have to go with what you feel is right. This is something that I appreciate about yourself. That you stand by what you believe in. If every person has just told this particular person what he wants to hear, then theere is little chance of him rethinking his product.
Criticism when given in fair and positive ways is better than taking a fall later on. I think you have done very well to stick to your principles.
Dave
Hey Tiff,
I am going to have to agree with 99% of everyone else here, you did the right thing. That is why I keep coming back to read this blog and follow you.
I myself have purchased your products and love them. I have to disagree with a few comments here on trying to find this way or that way that you could have made a sale.
That marketer would do well to learn from YOUR example. It’s simply not all about the money!
It is, the customer. Period!
In the end, you were taking care of 100% of all of us by posting this and asking our opinion. Then, when someone was curious for themselves, they could get the information from you privately.
Thanks girl, you are truly a trusted friend, marketer and coach. Keep up the good work.
Go Go Go Tiffany!
You Rock Better Than The Group Queen.Just Because I Asked 2 People For My Money Back Doesn’t Mean I Will Do That To Everyone.By The Way I Did, After Paying For 2 Other Courses From The Same Person Because The Last Was Actually Too Advanced For Me & I Still Felt Bad.
Best Regards
Giselle
P.S I’m Sure Many People Want You To JV With(For!!)Them And I Have To Say I Am One Of Them. But I Will Be Fine Taking Direction From You And Trying On My Own,I Couldn’t Be Learning From Anyone Better.
Thanks for sharing this, Tiff, and thanks for saying “No Thanks” to this “opportunity.”
I’ve lost trust in a number of people who I used to trust because they promoted garbage to me.
This stuff ranked from promotions of a “FREE” something or other that would have resulted in a $47/month required “hosting” charge to an MLM opportunity that the person(s) who promoted it to me quietly slipped out on without telling the people they had lured into that no-win situation that they had bailed themselves after heavily promoting it as the best thing since sliced cheese (and lifetime ever-growing income).
Okay, so maybe I was stupid for falling for it in the first place, but these people were my online “friends” and I trusted their judgment! Even if they didn’t realize the problems at the time, some alert emails to that effect would have been much appreciated.
Live and learn…
Thanks for not doing that to us.
Hi Tiff You where very polite.I have to say I have seen the future of many products on the Internet.You better stock up on a lot of toilet paper for this is what a lot of “affiliate sluts” are in need off.Many products aren’t worth the investment all me too crap.Some don’t seem to have an original thought left in the blank space called the mind.
Tiffany,
You inspire me to be a better affiliate. I have subscribed and unsubscribed to a LOT of lists and try to keep up with the JV products out there as well. I am so tired of people pushing products down my throat without providing me any valuable content.
You define the words character and ethical in a cut throat market. I only pray that as I go forward, I will refuse the temptation of quick riches and go the route you have chose.
ANYKIND of SLUT is OK by me……har har.
Let’s face it, most of what’s on the net is garbage.
Bad Dougie! LOL
Kudos to you Tiffany! Stay true!
Hi Tiffany,
I just wanted to say that your ethics are to be rivaled. Your honesty and advice is greatly appreciated!
Thank you again,
Anthony
Thanks so much Tiffany for your honesty and integrity. I’m new to this business and I am learning that the money will follow (eventually:) after you give people true value.
You did the right thing, you would not have being able to pass it on if your heart was not 100% in it. You have your brand to protect, and those who look to you for advise need to know that when push comes to shove you will look after those that believe in you.
Hooray for you Tiff. That is why I read your e-mails and have un-subscribed to all but a couple of others. Keep up the good work.
Bob
Keep on doing it the ethical way Good for you!
There is so much short term garbage on the Net -
you and a few other shine out as professional and ethical
Kind regards,
Diana
Thanks for being a true source for high-quality materials!
The person whose product you declined would do well to take your advice and produce a wonderful product, where both the buyer and seller could achieve the best results. Perhaps your declining the offer will spark that change.
There are so many traps out there for those who are not knowledgeable. Everyone can win…thanks for hold up those high standards!
Your reputation is your most valuable commodity. This is especially true in the the notoriously shady internet marketing space.
If he took your advice to heart and lowered his pricing and added better features, you probably would go back and endorse him, wouldn’t you?
Trust me, there are countless brands out there that would kill to have their feelings hurt with free expert advice.
He would only be hurt if he was prideful, stubborn and didn’t care about his own reputation or the quality he put out.
I completely agree with you Tiffany. It is not all about money. It is about integrity and relationships. Relationships you can take to your grave, not money.
Unrighteous gain does not last anyway. As you said in the closing: hold up your integrity and the money will follow. I have always lived by that. Victor
Well done, Tiffany!
If this marketer has half the integrity, sensibility and sensitivity you have, he will take your criticism for the gift it truly is and develop it until it achieves better standards and delivers 200% value.
Nice post Tiffany, had a problem last year with a product I purchased.
Tested it prior to offering it to my list, it turned out to be crap, and I got zero help from the owner.
So I have put the ‘help desk’ page on the web for the whole world to see.
Good for you Tiff!
I’ve gotten several of those requests myself and it’s hard, very hard, to turn someone down, but if the product isn’t something you would use or buy yourself it simply isn’t right for you to suggest it to people who look to your for honest advice and guidance.
Sticking to your ethics is admirable
Good girl, put that foot down! I think the “big gurus” are getting nervous cause they are being called out on their BS more often than not nowadays.
You did the right thing Tiffany.
Hi Liz, if it’s the best article spinner your referring to which i tried for 3 days then I agree with you, it’s a good tool but I wouldn’t spend $100 on it. Thanks for being you.
It’s about quality and you have to maintain your integrity so you can continue to build a quality audience who trust you and believe your recommendations to be the best.
I think he should appreciate you give him a personal product review. And he should use that to improve the product or revisit his pricing.
Thank you Tiffany for being honest and looking out for all of us. We appreciate you!
Thanks, for being you.
Tiffany,
I think it’s great that you “walk your talk.” It’s totally the way to be and an inspiration to your followers!
Thanks!
Tiffany
Your values are very important to you. Live with your values as you live with yourself.
Right and wrong are another story.
I am not sure whether what you did is right or wrong, but your values stay firm.
Tiffany:
I would have expected nothing less from you. You are always fair and honest in everything you do and always try to help people succeed. You have always been so kind in working with me and answering my questions. And you are so right, you have to have money to pay your bills, but honesty and integrity are so much more important. Keep up the good work. Take Care, Sam Lyons
Tiffany,
This kind of story is EXACTLY why I have moved your name to the top of my “Most Trusted List.”
I had some others on there but they have slipped a bit. They seem to have jumped on the bandwagon of promoting every new shiny object.
I won’t name names, but suffice it to say, they were people I originally considered “good people” (as they say in my neck of the woods.)
I still respect them, but I now have a tiny grain of skepticism when I read their promotional emails.
When I grow up, (as a marketer-I am already older than you chronologically) I want to be just like you!
Best to you,
Teresa Miller
Let’s hope ‘ALL’ of the main players (Guru’s included) read your post Tiff, and then look in the mirror.
I wonder ‘what’ they’ll see?
I think you’ll be getting bucket-loads of Karma
Pete.
Hi Tiff -
Thanks for talking about this. I mostly see people talking about how to JV. You read about how to approach a big marketer to be considered as a joint venture partner. What they want in a JV partner…etc.
Seems always geared toward meeting their standards but nothing about them meeting your standards. Never the discussion of ethics and doing the right thing. Like when to say NO if approached to promote a product or when it’s sometimes the best option to decline.
When your new on the scene you see it happening and think these JV partners must be special. This product must be good if these people are joint venturing to promote it. Sometimes the product is good. It’s seems more often these days it’s more about the money. JV partners often get a higher percentage of the sale than an affiliate. There are often performance prizes for those selling the most.
Sometimes it’s even harder to decline a JV when there is a history between you and the other person. You need to judge each opportunity on it’s own merit. Not because they did something for you and it’s pay up time. It’s not personal it’s just good business to choose wisely.
I had to decline a JV offer recently. There was no history between us. I still felt bad that I couldn’t do it. The person is a nice person but the product wasn’t something I wanted to promote. The product, an ebook, had what I consider bad advice and I don’t care for the coauthor. By the style and content I think the coauthor actually wrote it. Then they partnered to get more JV’s and bigger list exposure and more money.
I also did some searching and found out they both belong to the same mastermind type group. I know that people that end up on their list will have this group eventually promoted to them. I don’t want to be responsible for that.
Sometimes when you make suggestions or express concerns they are taken to heart. Some people value your input other people don’t. Even when they ask for it. When they ask it’s more of a formality and they really don’t want any criticism. Dumb but true. This was one of those times I felt it better to just walk away. There must have been a dozen things that bothered me.
Just the price as you mention here can be a deal breaker. I notice that often as people become more well known there prices go up even though the quality of the product doesn’t. People get strange ideas when placing a value on their own product. Some people just have unrealistic expectations. Especially when they are sharing the profit with JV’s and affiliates.
I’ve also have seen people saying if you increase the price of a product people will think it’s more valuable. A perceived value may get a person to buy one time. Repeat sales happen when expectations and real value meet or are exceeded.
Any way thanks Tiff for caring about the people that are on your list or visit your sites. Keep being a reliable filter. There aren’t a lot of people that worry about what they promote to their readers. I always enjoy what you have to say.
I think you handled the situation admirably.
The bit about ‘if I wouldn’t offer it to my Mother’ reminds me of when my kids were young. I used to tell them that if they weren’t sure about doing something, could they come home and tell me about it. If they couldn’t then they know it would be wrong!
You sound like a woman after my own heart. Well done!
Hi Tiff,
Its nice to see that there is still ethical folk around … customers first and formost … profit comes a little later.
I do enjoy your blogs Tiff.
Vic
Spain
You are so right Tiffany. Listen to your feelings. Your story made me guess who the guy was and I thought of several!!!! The real bla bla I made it after I was so broke and look at my Maserati type maybe, or the one who after fat promises makes it so difficult to contact or whom you have to correspond intensely with by sending tickets all the time to get a refund. I really enjoy this burst of criticism!
Marijke
It seems his ambition may be a little mis-guided. From what you wrote, he was offering a $50 payout which is quite generous.
I can’t imagine how there could be any “hurt feelings” since he asked for your evaluation and you offered an honest assessment with suggestions for improvements that would even address the user’s needs more advantageously. Better product, better retention, higher success, less refund requests and established clout as a marketer/producer. I for one would be grateful for your suggestions and input and take them to heart.
I just read this article from Perry Marshall which addresses these issues in a very unique and insightful way. If I may, here is the link:
http://www.perrymarshall.com/renaissance/discernment.htm
Grateful Al, well he didn’t ask me for an assessment – he just asked me to promote it. He kept reinforcing that the big name marketer was already onboard, which made me feel like he was pressuring me to not even evaluate it. He didn’t offer a trial version – I had to ask for it. So it was unsolicited advice. LOL
Good for you. We trust you and that’s why we follow you.
It only takes one misrepresentation to change years of trying to build something to take it all down.
Thanks Tiffany.
Bill Morgan
The Job Swami Speaks.. the Career Blog
You are right TIFF. Value for money is just as important as content.
You rock woman! Simply awesome — that’s why we all love ya so much!
That is why you are a trust worthy teacher my dear.
That is exactly why I have come to trust you!