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JV Zoo Pros and Cons as a Vendor and Affiliate

Hi everyone! I’m going to let y’all know a little bit about JV Zoo from an affiliate and vendor perspective. I think it’s good we have more options than ClickBank and PayDotCom – so I signed up to see what the buzz was all about. My MAIN goal was to be able to link a WSO with an affiliate program (I already do this with JRox Jam but not for regular products).

My mentor Craig mentioned 3 ways I could link a WSO with an affiliate program:

1. WarriorPlus, which I won’t use because of all the PayPal shut down horror stories I’ve heard about. Not sure if it’s because of that but I’m a no risk kinda girl.

2. Jrox Jam, which I own but it’s built on PLR Mini Mart and I don’t want to add a product in there and have people promoting an affiliate link that makes it appear like a PLR product when it isn’t.

3. JVZoo, which I’d heard about but never had a need to investigate – until now! And I’m going to be an affiliate AND a seller here (and it’s free to sign up here)

Here’s what I instantly like about JVZoo when I logged in:

  • Affiliates have LIFETIME cookies.
  • Affiliates get paid INSTANTLY via PayPal just like I do.
  • It integrates with my Aweber system.
  • I can finally do a dimesale WSO if I want to – which I’m not sure if I’ll want to.
  • I can easily have a split funnel with a JV partner.
  • Has built in graphics like buy buttons for your WSOs.
  • They have this neat sounding sales page generator they host w/FB comments in it.
  • It has a built in blacklist system! Woot! I can deny people mwuahahaha. And here’s what is SO cool about this option – it has 3 tiers. The first is when I want to block someone for whatever reason. Second, I can access a blacklist network to see who’s a serial refunder. It’s based on your PayPal email address. And the third is the JVZoo blacklist, which they create to block serial refunders, etc. Awesome.

The only dislike I have about it is that it’s not connected to DLG but they do offer secure delivery for up to 128 MB – otherwise you have to use a download page. Now what I dislike about this is that if I do a video/PDF combo course, chances are it’ll run bigger than that (I don’t know much about size stuff).

I need to find a way around the download page because that’s for the birds. That’s like a marketing 101 fail using a simple download page.

So anyway, that’s what I’ll be toying with now for some upcoming launches. I like it because I often have potential JV partners who don’t want to promote as long as a WSO is going on – but this way, they can – and their own customers can get the discount, too.

If you’ve had experience with JV Zoo, let me know what it was – from an affiliate or vendor standpoint.

Tiff 😉

55 Responses to “JV Zoo Pros and Cons as a Vendor and Affiliate”

  • Sue says:

    Hi Tiff

    I purchased a product through JV Zoo with no problems. Then signed up as an affiliate too. That was a little confusing as they have separate pages for logging in as a customer and a different portal to log in as an affiliate or vendor, with the same email address. Have it figured out now but was going around in a loop.

    I find when you want to sign up as an affiliate there is no search button. You have to scroll down and find the program and place a request.

    Haven’t used it yet as a vendor but am planning to do so shortly. Have used WSO Pro with no issues but obviously saving the $19 would be great. Plus you don’t have to run your product as a WSO just advertise on JV Zoo. Not sure about the % they take so can’t comment on that and if it’s worth paying the $17 upfront or not.

    Other people I have talked to liked it and it is a growing site. So will have to see what it grows into.

    Will be interested in what others have to say about it.

  • Hi Tiffany, thanks for the taking the time to write this post!

    For downloads, we’re looking into how we can integrate with DL Guard, but you can integrate with something like DAP, Memberchamp, WP FileLock and here very soon s2member. These would all give you the protection you were looking for with larger file sizes.

    @Sue, we’re building in a search feature for the affiliate side, but for now you can sort the market place by product (alphabetical order), date of launch, EPC, conversion percentage, commission percent and refund percent.

  • Pat Busch says:

    Thanks, Tiff.
    I like the JV idea. I couldn’t figure out an automatic way to share with DLGuard, so have been doing it manually… 🙁
    Pat

  • Hi Tiffany

    One way around the download limit could be to have a membership site on the backend, so the download page would be the link to signup to the site, maybe WP with Wishlish Member, then you can secure the downloads within the membership site, and you could have multiple products within the site.

    I have purchased a product via a WSO and JVZoo this way earlier this month.

    Julie

    • Tiffany says:

      Ah thanks for the idea Julie!

      • Katie says:

        This is what I did with my current WSO – in fact I actually made my WSO a membership site so people can have easy access without downloading the vids, etc, but provided the downloads for the folks that want them. And yes, I, too am going with JVZoo – I like that I can promote products without having to do it as a WSO. Posting more down below 🙂

  • Aigul Erali says:

    Hi Tiffany,

    thank you for sharing!I think JVZOO will dominate over WarriorPlus/WSOPRO soon, has so many features…

    you don’t have to PAY EXTRA for an OTO to be added.

    Plus commissions are truly shared – not one to vendor and one to affiliate. A true instant payment split.

    Instant split commissions – but if you refund in the control panel the money is instantly taken from both affiliate and vendor. No mucking about having to ask the affiliate to please refund the money.

    Nice professional buttons.

    No entry fee. Pay as you go. A nice small transaction fee.

    The best affiliate tracking and a bunch of other stuff.

    Probably more but I’ll stop there as those are my favorites. WSO Pro needs to do some catch up.

    Competition is, generally speaking, good.

    Aigul Erali

  • Alice Coaxum says:

    Hi Tiffany,

    I have bought several products through JV ZOO and have a couple of things there as a vendor, though I haven’t made any sales through there but people have requested that they can become an affiliate so I will have to see how it goes.

  • Carol Amato says:

    I’ve been an affiliate on JV Zoo for a while now and really like the stats and user friendly interface.

    Had a little mix up in the beginning because I use my info at carolamato.com for all communication having to do with my IM business, but my PP email address that I use as a customer is different…so it caused some trouble with two different accounts being created.

    They finally had to manually go in and merge them for me.

    All in all, have had a good experience with them so far.

    Have a great weekend.

  • Katie says:

    I’ve been looking at JVZoo, too, especially after my experience with my first WSO. I signed up last night and completed the paperwork. I am still in the process of getting my first product up.

    Yes, there are some confusing things, but I found the same thing with Warrior+. A nice thing about JVZoo is your button is live before you get the WSO approved, so it’s instant on! Plus I love the idea that you can have an OTO without having to pay more.

    One thing that does bother me is it seems there are a lot of people selling PLR products – not products they made, but products they purchased. I found 3 or 4 last night (that looked like renamed PLR) as I was looking through the categories. I hope that isn’t true. Not because I don’t want people to sell the PLR products they bought, but because I’d hate to see JVZoo get cluttered with cr*p products and not be viable for vendors with original stuff. That is one thing I do like about WSOs – it might be rehashed, but it’s “orginal” rehash LOL,

    Just my 2¢ worth.

    • Katie says:

      Oh gee, my main reason for liking JVZoo? The split affiliate payments – makes SOOOOO much more sense. And, of course, my own experience with purchasing through them was flawless – unlike when Warrior+ is down or not responding. Of course that may just be a matter of scaling and as JVZoo gets bigger it could be the same there – we’ll just have to wait and see. In the meantime….

    • Tiffany says:

      Oh yeah you’re right that might confuse people if they’re renamed especially.

  • Linda says:

    I bought something thru them myself and also signed up as an affiliate and using their WP plugin makes it even easier to promote on your blogs… plus I get people clicking on the ads from my RSS feed which is great… at first I was confused as to how I was getting clicks when the traffic wasn’t showing up… quickly realized.. 😉

    I’m loving it and intend to list my own products eventually but right now I’m very happy with it. Best part, I get to pick and choose which products I want to promote and then just request approval… Don’t have to worry about useless or bad products…

    I recommend it… Skimlinks is another one I recommend for affiliates… I’m having success with their plugin too… I haven’t had much luck with the WF WSO’s that I promote… if they’re not a forum member they don’t like to buy… and many don’t want to join… JVzoo solved that problem for me… 😉

    You’ll like it… =}

    • Tiffany says:

      thanks Linda!

    • Joseph says:

      I began testing JVZoo two days ago, as both a purchaser and an affiliate.

      Mixed results: One $4.95 product was hardly worth the money. It was a “come on” for a monthly recurring billing product.

      The second product, a $9.95 WordPress plugin, got me blacklisted as an affiliate by the next day! This makes testing the system difficult.

      I noticed that JVZoo lists the number of sales of the products when you sign up as an affiliate. Only a few had a reasonable number of sales (for affiliates, the number of sales should be in the thousands). Most of the listed products reported sales of less than ten.

      I suspect that the most profitable way to use JVZoo is to create a high-value product, sell at an “over deliver” price, provide 100% commissions, and build your list.

      Based upon the number of sales reported by the JVZoo system, I don’t see how an affiliate can earn substantial payback for promoting these products directly.

      Please let me know if I am correct about this.

      Joseph Chmielewski, M.S., L.P.C.

  • I really like WarriorPlus and logging in has become a daily habit to keep an eye on the marketplace. Haven’t started that yet with JVzoo but I’ll have to start using it as more of a marketplace. As an affiliate it’s nice to search for high converting offers… which go up to 100% on JVZoo and 185,000% on WarriorPlus… bizarre! One of the nice things about WP is being able to click on the name of the person and find out more about them first (especially for approving affiliates).

  • Sam says:

    Great article on the JVZoo affiliate site. I just checked it out and it looks very interesting. A good clickbank alternative and a good place to sell our own products. Have a nice weekend everyone.

  • Good to hear the S2 Member will soon be used with this. I used to use DLG but got tired of waiting for him to update it. S2 Member is EZ-ier to use. I use it for my member area and it also has the ability to protect specific post and pages for my product downloads.

    I like the idea of instantly paying affiliates but what do you do about refunds since you’ve already paid the affiliates right after a customer purchases?

    • Tiffany says:

      I wonder that too but they say it comes back out of their account instantly too

    • Refunds are done through the JVZoo platform. When you login and refund a customer, the affiliate automatically sends the commission back. You also get any JVZoo and PayPal fee back into your PayPal account. PayPal automates all of it through the adaptive payment system.

      • Tiffany says:

        Just out of curiosity – let’s say Joe Blow buys a $40 product and I get $20 and the affiliate gets $20. Then Joe wants a refund. I have the funds in my account but my affiliate doesn’t. What happens then? Just wondering.

        • John says:

          If the affiliate has insufficient funds in their Paypal account, Paypal takes it from their linked credit card or bank account.

  • Tom Parker says:

    Hey Tiff,

    I use a product called WSO Pro Guardian in conjunction with Warrior Plus which encrypts your download pages. If someone who hasn’t purchased tries to access the download page it locks them out. It also never reveals the actual file location of your products.

    I’m not sure if they are compatible with JVZoo as well but might be worth asking.

    Hope this helps,

    Tom

  • Philip C. says:

    Tiff, quite obviously you have a way with words. Haha, after all you make a good living as a Wordsmith. How about asking JVZoo about raising the size limit on files they can protect when downloading?
    If enough vendors do it they might find a way to make it happen.

    I’ve signed up with them as an affiliate and so far I like what I see.

  • Wow! Thank you, Tiff. I have been wondering where I might put my cookbook, my beading books, and any other books I might write. This sounds like the perfect place. Everything sounds so great. Might also give GetResponse a try, too, as it is cheaper than Aweber.

  • Wouldn’t it be easier to just move Jrox Jam to its own domain – e.g. tiffanydowsaffiliates.com (just a thought).

  • hagar says:

    Tiff, can’t say personally, but know at least a dozen folks that have used JVZoo and liked it – with WF and W+ going down almost daily (sorry guys, but it is what it is) lot of folks been moving over. WF and W+ are still the big dogs, but Bryan and company designed JVZoo specifically to do what it does – and did a pretty good job.
    Couple that with their willingness to talk to anyone who has a problem, and that makes it a whole ‘nother (better) ball game…

  • Chris Deals says:

    Tiff, you delivered again 🙂 I was just about to do some research on JV Zoo and saw your post in my inbox. Now all my questions are answered.

    What I like best about JV Zoo is that you can use the service on your sales page as well as WSO?

    I wondering if it can be used as in your PLR store?

  • Stan Fields says:

    Hey Tiff,

    JVZoo also makes it hard for Affiliates to buy through their own link, because they can’t use one PayPal account for a transaction of this type, which is awesome from a Vendor perspective.

    Thanks.

    Regards.

    Stan Fields, The Blind Marketer.

  • dora says:

    Tiff, I sincerely thank you for JVZoo affiliate directory. I never heard it before! I really crave affiliate programs that pay through Paypal because my parents don’t approve my IM activity. Sending paychecks to home = disaster.

    Once again, thanks a million! 🙂

  • Terry says:

    Hi Tiffany, all and all I like Jvzoo. I noticed one small problem. There Is no way to delete a product from your products list.

    I set up one of my products as a test product and wanted to delete It later on. I have searched high and low for a link to delete the product unless I over looked something.

    Another thing that kind of makes me nervous Is that when you go to the page to approve affiliates In bold letters It says do not approve affiliates that you don’t know or you are putting your account at risk.

    I mean I agree with this but how well do we really know our affiliates when It comes down to It.

    I had 0ne affiliate request from a person In the UK that called himself shadie, like I am going to approve him right.

    Other than the above i like Jvzoo.

    Take care Tiffany..

  • Chris Deals says:

    I searched for this post, just to sign up for JVZoo using your link 🙂

    Thanks Tiffany for all the help. You are sooooo awesome!

    Chris

  • Clare says:

    Hi Tiff – I know this is an old post but I’m looking for more info on JVZoo – I see that it now integrates with DL Guard which is good. I wondered whether they had an enforced “money back guarantee’ like Clickbank does. Do you know?

    • Tiffany says:

      Oh wonderful! I didn’t know that it worked with DLG now. I’m not sure about the moneyback guarantee. I don’t THINK so but not sure.

  • Rick Butts says:

    HI Tiffany – I bought a product from someone who was using JVZoo and thought about them because they had the instant payment component for something I’m about to launch now.

    (The $7 Secrets program for doing this was good 400 years ago but now it’s just so wonky – and it isn’t integrated with WordPress so it was a battle to use Robert Plank & Lance Tamashiro’s Paper Template, which I heart.

    I did a Google search of “How much does JVZoo Charge?” and your blog post came up #3 – congratulations!!!

    Thanks for the great post and hope you are doing well.

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