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Howdee, Tiffany,
I guess I ruffled your feathers.
First, let me apologize. Somehow a piece of my sentence disappeared before I submitted:
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Tiffany, I think we will have to agree to disagree here.
First of all, when a step-b-step program skips steps, especially critical steps, it should not be sold to total beginners.
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I know you well enough to know that the above two sentences do not belong together. Actually, I was saying “First, let say that we both agree that whan a step-by-step program…”
I offer my most sincere and humble apologies for the error. I saw the error after submitting, but there was no way to edit, and I was being rushed out of the house by the family so I did not get a chance to correct it before you rebutted.
Before I continue, let me clarify the topic. I am only discussing total newbies, people new to IM who have never had a site, etc. I am talking about a course that specifically targets these newcomers as a starting point, and not including the advanced tactics of SEO, etc.
I realize that if you spent your time defining all the terms on these blog videos, you would have the most boring blog on the net, but we are not addressing this forum. Only the course Newbies want for themselves.
One more thing, in my book, before this discussion, you were the most trustworthy guru (for lack of better terms) in IM. YOU STILL ARE! That has not changed.
Back to Newbies Only Course…
What I am seeing, very clearly, from comments in your blog are people who want to see the path actually walked while they are learning enough to see some form of success.
Lets take this project as an example. Setup a blog with an ad for an affiliate link to a Raising Beta Fish ebook. I will skip steps, but here is the gist…
Create a checklist of the steps. Video record the entire process of you following the steps talking along the way, but not defining every word in detail, just enough for them to see what you are doing in a way they can copy it.
Register a domain name, buy hosting, log into cpanel, install WP through Fantastico. Buy your PLR pack, personalize the articles, post them with drip feed, link to clickbank, ping the site, and market the site through Twitter, or whatever. NO FANCY STUFF, no IPK SEO, etc. Just the bare minimum to get them started.
A check list plus the videos of the complete process they can see and duplicate will satisfy what they want. It is not a million-a-day scheme. It is just a start. It s the first step.
I know you aren’t the million-a-day, and, of course are not teaching it. I just did not mention it to reduce space.
OOPS, it got away before I edited it. Sorry….
I know the course would not be marketed as such, not from you.
Anything you don’t mention in your video but include in your video, may raise questions, but it does not hamper progress. When your students complete the project, they may have questions, or not really understand what did entirely, but they did it and might ask what they did. But they can do it again, while they are looking for the answers. When they get the answers, they can start making their own decisions based on understanding what they are doing.
My daughter is 2 1/2. I draw a circle, she draws one, not as neet, but a circle. I draw 3 triangles, and she draws them, close to the same place. I draw a “W” two more circles and six strait lines. She does the same. When we are done, she has drawn a cat’s face.
I point to a word in a book and read it out loud, she copies, now she can read several sentences. Not once did I send her to the dictionary or encyclopedia. Later, when she understands what she reads, she can learn to write sentences her way, but for now, she wants to mimic her daddy. And her daddy loves her.
I don’t mean it in a condescending way when I refer to the newbies as first graders. They are taught differently.
I realize you have a number of people crying that they only have five weeks to raise $5000 to save their house, and there is nothing you can do for them. It is true, that the course I propose will not change that, but, there are many out there who just want to see it work.
This video is broke, so I can’t respond to most of it, besides, I have used up way too much of your cyberestate.
For some of us, it really is hard to find our way around in this business without a mentor or a guide. These beginners trust you and look to you for hope. They all appreciate you, we all do. And I know you care for them.
Hey Buck!
My feathers weren’t ruffled. I was starting to get sick. Wound up with 101.3 ever – ick! I just wanted to clarify that I wasn’t starting to advocate missing steps in paid courses.
I understand what you’re saying and appreciate your point of view!
Tiff
Very well said Tiff.
I dread to think what a course that outlined every single ‘nitty gritty’ step would be like. My bet is that the people who complain about leaving steps out such as your example of auto responders would find a course like that too heavy going and then grumble about that too!
Internet Marketing, whatever your niche may be, is about being entrepeneurial. Being spoonfed and wanting it all done for you is not being an entrepeneur. You have to think for yourself and choose what methods fit your personality, capabilities and goals. Relyng on others to think for you defeats the object and leaves you in no better place than the 9 to 5 job with a boss dishing out orders – a scenario that most people are trying to get away from.
If you can’t brainstorm, think for yourself a bit and implement in an orderly fashion then maybe IM is not the best route to take.
Pointing this out seems a bit harsh but sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind.
Just my 2 cents
I don’t get where this disagreement came from. I think it was pretty clear that you implied you skip things you don’t think are necessary or that you don’t like doing. You are obviously still successful with those campaigns so it is just you tailoring things to your own preferences.
I never thought people would think it is just as natural for a newbie to do the same thing.
Personally I wouldn’t bother worrying about it Tiff. I think your intentions are clear and that you are definitely not misleading anyone.
Newbie Internet Marketers are adults. If they are going to succeed at having their own business in any fashion they need to learn to think for themselves.
Now, I say that as a newbie internet marketer. I say that as a very desperate newbie internet marketer. I’m in a really rough spot because I depended on someone and the Army broke him. I’m now on my own with a 1 year old and haven’t had a job in a year. In fact, I live in a city that is being hit very very hard by a lot of circumstances and the prospect of getting a job is looking quite grim. Before I had the baby I was a very successful full charge bookkeeper. I had that job because I thought for myself right from the beginning. What I didn’t know, I found. Everything, from tax law to software skills. I know more about QuickBooks than many of their tech support. I can talk tax laws, business filings, chart of accounts, what have you with Controllers and CFOs. Forget accountants, I’m past that. I will also note I don’t have a degree. I did what I had to do to get the job done. I built myself up from nothing in an industry I never planned to be a part of and it worked! I was very successful. However, my last job was in oil and gas and we know how that’s going right now.
My point in all this is, there’s a point where you don’t expect hand holding. Putting up a WordPress blog for example. There’s so much out there that will quite literally hold your hand though the process. You can’t make a ‘newbie’ product that hand holds though setup steps. You simply can’t. Hosting varies, WordPress varies, do you have Fantastico or manual install? What theme did you pick? See? It would get too muddy. You’d have newbies all making the same exact cookie cutter thing. If you can’t, for example, make your own google email account at this point, how did you even FIND internet marketing? There’s so much out there that handles these little tasks.
Now, when I buy a product that tells me I can get a result, I expect a bit of hand holding. I could do IM on my own. It would take a long time, just as it took a long time to build my bookkeeping career. However, I consider IM courses to be ‘college’. Maybe not a masters or phd program, but perhaps a junior college or above. I want short cuts. I want a formula that will work. Again, I want a formula that WILL work. Now, I might have to go though 10 niches to find my success and I understand that. But I don’t want a trickle fed program that starts off with telling me how to get a gmail account.
In the end, we are all the masters of our destiny. It’s obvious that IM does work. However, there are many roads to that destination. There is no clear cut road for any one person. It is our responsibility to keep marching on the roads. We can go blind, or we can accept maps that are for sale for us. We also have to accept that the map may not be clear, or it may be a crap, defunct mapquest map that will get you lost for sure. This is where our free thought comes in. Ditch the map that’s getting you lost. Compare the map that isn’t so clear to other maps.
In short, I think that a ‘Guru’ has a responsibility to put out an honest product that will do what they say it does. I, however, do not think anyone has the responsibility to hold everyone’s hand as it’s not possible except in one on one mentoring. I’m not saying that there shouldn’t be help for people, however, one person cannot shoulder the collective woes of the internet. As long as an honest product with all the information that relates is included, that’s what should matter. Leaving out or just mentioning something that can be readily googled isn’t cheating anyone. It’s helping. Teach to fish, not give fishes and all that.
Great post Danielle! I’m sorry you’re struggling right now. I know here in DFW (Texas), drilling is huge right now – jobs are flourishing. Maybe move closer to me
I would Tiff! However I’d lose my free child care…my mom is right across the street! It wouldn’t be a big move though, I’m in Houston! I will be checking the job market out though, for sure. It may be worth it. For now I’m going to keep plugging away.
It’s a shame my brother works entirely subsea, he does ROVs and the like. He’s been out of work awhile himself but his skills don’t translate into onshore rigs. I never realized how entirely different the two worlds were until he started doing subsea.