Open Letter to Kelly Felix
I emailed this to Kelly per his request for me to contact him on my other blog post about Bring the Fresh, so I wanted to share with you what I had to say to him via direct email:
Hi Kelly,
I just found your comment on my blog in askimet, so I approved it and replied as I read it so you get my raw emotions ha!
Anyway, here’s the deal…
You went on your blog, posted about the stuff you did, made it sound horrible, and now seem annoyed I’m publicly posting about being cynical of your intentions – when you yourself TOLD me to be on your blog. It’s not making sense to me.
The stuff you spoke of I already knew went on behind the scenes because of all the “gurus” I ghostwrote for over the course
of YEARS. I heard them say, “don’t put too much detail in there – I need something to sell later,” or “I don’t want them competing with me.” I’d put detail in there and often get told they cut it – scolded for being thorough.
They got on the phone and laughed to me like you said you did about the money they made off of their customers, as if they were suckers.
I admitted to my readers that I have a special slant because of my past connection with “gurus,” but what I do now instead of ghostwrite is DELIVER those details to newbies who for years wasted money with fluff guides.
Let me be real honest with you – because I don’t give a rat’s ass who you are…people are too intimidated to contact you and say they want a refund or even not need a refund, but felt the product didn’t live up to its hype.
Why? Maybe you’re too big to understand now…but for the little guy/girl starting out, this whole industry is overwhelming. Did you see the posts recently in the Warrior Forum asking how to walk up and approach a “guru” at a seminar? The little guy feels you’re like a rockstar. They get nervous.
I get people emailing ME – and I’m nobody comparatively – saying, “OMG I can’t believe YOU replied yourself!” as if I’m somebody…that’s just sad that they feel this is something where they should be put at arm’s length.
I wish you lots of luck with BringTheFresh and I truly hope it helps a ton of people. I also hope that you DO realize that those weren’t just words you threw around – people DID get burned by your (and others) actions, and they did NOT contact you – they contacted OTHER marketers (of which I’m one) to complain about you because many people just don’t go directly to the source. Or they quit trying to make money online completely.
They did this exact same thing with One Week Marketing. I got literally a dozen emails or so each week telling me they bought OWM, and quit – didn’t grasp it. They did NOT refund and they did NOT contact Jennifer Ledbetter. They contacted someone ELSE they could trust, chalked it up to a lesson learned, and moved on.
That’s what some people did with RJ too.
I am more than willing to come back and say, “Kelly is really a changed man – damn he’s over-delivering and making up for past shortcomings,” IF that’s what you truly do.
You can’t build yourself into this mega marketing star and expect everyone to just clap for you when you say what you did on your blog, period. I’m just commenting on it with my own POV.
You’re going to prove something one way or another…you’ll either pull the same shit and people will say, “I told you so,” or you’ll make a lot of people happy, and hopefully other marketers will follow suit since you’re a leader for them.
Tiff
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Phew! I’m glad I didn’t waste my money then and I’m sure not going to wasting any now. Just been to the ‘Bring the Fish’ website. Still sounds like hype to me. Just my opinion though.
Adrian, I don’t know about BTF – might be the best thing since sliced bread. Might not – I don’t know. I was speaking of his blog post only.
You’re kind of a bitch, huh?
Maria, I guess it depends on how you know me. I don’t think it’s bitchy, but to each his own $0.02!
Hey, this guy keeps sending me emails and insults me like nothing I’ve ever seen before. Even called my father a loser. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. I guess he’s been around a while at this game.
I do know that I will not be purchasing his new hair-brained scheme offering a free web-sites for newbies. Newbies would be better off using Blogger because they will never own it.
I think its time RJ changed his tune and started giving for a change. Show examples to the newbies and other gurus.
You have to admit though, his style is somewhat entertaining! lol
James, yes all the marketers (me included) were amused at his shtick in the beginning. I quit following shortly after 9/11 when I got an email from RJ saying he’d offer sex to the 9.11 widows. I forget what happened, but I faintly remember him claiming someone else in his office sent that, he didn’t know, etc. I may be wrong – it was too long ago. Regardless, it was his brand – he was responsible, and it was disgusting.
Great post Tiff – Maybe a bit of retribution from ‘RJ’ at play when your blogger blog ‘may’ have been reported as spammy.
Just a thought {:-)
Trust me Pete – I’ve considered it was someone who had a grudge (not saying Kelly) – I make a few enemies being honest about my opinion of stuff out there. lol
Of all the marketers I have come across during this painstaking journey as a newbie, YOU are the ONLY marketer that I can say I have learned things from.
Pretty much everything I have been reading in your blog posts have proven to be right on point. For example, I purchased OWM, found it difficult to grasp, and gave up. After reading your case study on it (an truly honest case study)I have considered revisiting it from a different angle, thus possibly feeling I didn’t waste the money I spent purchasing the program.
I, as a newbie, truly value what you offer to the internet marketing game, which is ETHICS. I have read numerous blogs about the so-called top marketers to follow and I have thrown that concept out of the window.
When I open up my Outlook, the RSS feed I check are yours. Please don’t ever change what you do or the way you do them because without your insight and contributions to internet marketing, I think I would have given up. You are truly a blessing to newbies!
Bitchy? Nah! But she bites back!
I haven’t read Kelly’s (RJ’s) remarks yet, but RJ is known for his snyde remarks, a type of intimidation.
Personally, I can’t trust him. According to him, he has come clean, so to speak, and is really teaching people how to make money the way he did it all these years.
hmm, let’s examine that… In my opinion, here is what it sounds like…
I confess that I have scammed people all these years, but now I am coming clean and being a good guy. I am reformed. Evidence of my reform is that I will now teach people everything I did so they can make the kind of money I made by doing the things I did.
So he came clean, he continues his RJ course he came clean on, and he is teaching people how to cheat their way to riches the way he did, but he is now the good guy for teaching others how to cheat their way to riches? In my opinion, this is how it comes across. Whether it is accurate or not, I can’t know for sure, but I won’t trust him with my money any time soon.
When it comes to the trust I hold towards Internet marketers, Tiffany holds the highest position head and shoulders above the rest. She is new in being an Internet marketer, but she is not new to the business and I am sure she knows more truth about other marketers than many of us even want to know.
So, she gets a little course when she snaps back at someone biting her. She is human, and walking a tight-rope between making it big in IM and looking out for those of us who are in the earlier stages of the learning curve.
I say this, not in her defense as she stands on her own, but to her honor — an honor she earned.
Thank you Tiffany.
The biggest Internet gurus claim that over 95% of all their students fail. I am willing to bet that you will break the 5% success barrier. then who will be the best?
Aww Buck you’re so sweet! LOL
Really would like to talk to you kelly tried to scam be by phone yesterday and I to share what occurred
Mark
Hey Mark! I don’t do phone, sorry. I edited out your number for you.