Rant Warning: Quit Making Yourself Look Like a Conspiracy Theorist!
October 16th, 2011 | 
Author: Hi everyone! There’s something I see that’s really getting OLD so I want to clear things up once and for all.
Not all Internet marketing teachers are making their money ONLY by teaching Internet marketing.
I totally understand your outlook on the IM niche. It’s easy to roll your eyes and paint the whole niche with a “phony” paintbrush when you see some idiot selling a WSO on “how to rake in $3,976 in 30 minutes with nothing more than a domain and hosting,” and in another thread he’s begging someone to show him how to make $1,500 so he can get his truck fixed by Monday morning.
BUT…those are small fry scammers. The bigger ones usually really are in NON Internet Marketing niches, too. I promise.
And I hear people whine, “Well then why do they need to sell an Internet marketing eBook teaching me that, hmmm?”
BECAUSE IT’S MORE MONEY! And it’s FULFILLING!
Is that too hard to understand?
Here’s a for instance on my part. I was using Squidoo to promote my ghostwriting services, correct? I had made over $10,000 in sales on one lens.
So…people start asking about Squidoo. What is it? How do you get set up? What makes it more effective?
Another guy says, “Hey Tiff – you oughta write an eBook showing us.” So I do.
Tens of thousands of dollars later in eBook sales, I’m pretty freaking happy I became a TEACHER in the IM niche! And aside from money, it was kinda cool helping people succeed there, too.
Not everyone gets off on helping others, but it puts a smile on MY face so I keep doing it!
Marketers are ALONE – solo workers who use forums and blog communities to get support form one another and interact with those doing the same kind of business as themselves.
So if they’re succeeding in a niche, let’s say relationships, it’s perfectly feasible for them to spend some time creating a tutorial to show others AND supplement their income in the process.
It’s like an education that you pay for in a traditional college setting. The only difference is, you have to be more careful in who you trust – and that’s on YOU.
I get tired of threads like these where people boo freaking hoo over those teaching marketing, like it’s some big conspiracy against the little guy.
It’s NOT!
HOWEVER…
I DO know lots of gurus who teach “just enough” to show you they know their stuff but NOT enough to let you replicate their success – because THEN you become the competition.
THAT is where the problem is. It’s not in whether or not they actually make money in non IM niches. It’s whether or not they show you how to compete with them.
Just about every single guru I ever ghostwrote for had other niches they were making bank in.
- Dating tips for men was a BIG one.
- Parenting was HUGE.
- Health was ENORMOUS!
So why SHOULDN’T they make some extra money showing you how they succeed? What’s wrong with that?
One idiot asked why the marketers didn’t just give away the advice for free. Well, they can – I give away a lot – but should they HAVE to? No. It’s perfectly acceptable to sell it.
It takes time creating a course.
I myself have many niches I’m in. Some I have shared with y’all in the past – some I never do. I don’t want copycats getting into my niche. And every time I share a niche or topic, someone copies me – sometimes even showing me their site, and I’m polite but usually kind of annoyed that they copied it verbatim – my niche, my keywords, etc.
This happens primarily in non IM niches. Like my toilet seat site I shared. I had some people emailing me their knock offs of my site. Alrighty – that sucked. I meant for them to see how I did it and then do something in their own niche. But not everyone gets that.
You can create a separate hosting account and have it all elsewhere and in a pen name so that if you do a screen capture in Hostgator, for instance, no one can see your domains and niche markets! This is what I do.
Share some, keep some for myself.
This was my favorite reply to the original poster.
So my advice to you?
1. Take responsibility and thoroughly investigate someone before you fork over ANY money!
2. See how long they’ve been in the business – because someone who’s brand spanking new selling a millionaire course with no reputation MIGHT not be your best investment, ya think?
3. What shadiness, if any, have you been able to find about them?
4. Are they PROMISING or leading you to believe you’ll make a certain dollar amount in a set timeframe? I never do that – and it’s perhaps one of the most COMMON questions people ask me.
5. Did you take your time and get on their list to see what their ethics are like?
Sometimes I truly get sick of whiners who complain about marketers. You’re trying to BECOME a marketer and you’re moaning about marketers who teach you how? Good luck trying to wing it on your own then!
If I get ripped off, I ask myself what I did wrong to trust that guy. I don’t go on a forum and say ALL marketers are scammers and bad guys!
Sounds a little too much like “the sky is falling” to me.
Oh and what REALLY cracks me up most? The loudest complainer trolls are the ones who say, “Hey I make $600,000 a year so I don’t need this anyway” like this guy does. LOL! Riighhhhtttt. That’s why you’re so riled up, right?
I’m not saying there aren’t any scammers in IM. There are! But people like this guy scare newbies into thinking all teachers are not ethical, and THAT pisses me off.
What a pure idiot I would have been if I had looked at Craig Desorcy and thought he was just setting me up to be ripped off later. Or if I’d not listened to James B Allen when he told me to create a Squidoo guide because I worried about looking like a scammer JUST because I was sharing my knowledge.
What about my PLR store? That’s a form of Internet Marketing! I make money doing it – some huge windfalls. Should I have NOT taught others how just because “all IM teachers make money teaching, not by doing?”
Or my ghostwriting course? I made bank ghostwriting – and I have had people come to me saying their life is turned around now because I taught them my secrets, little things like saying no to cheaper offers because they will view you as in demand and not desperate.
Should I NOT have taught others those tips because teaching IM to people who want to know IM is shady?
One moron in the WF pouts about marketers teaching how to make $1,000 in 3 hours and THEN selling that information for “just $7.” THIS person is obviously not someone who understands marketing. LOL!
You sell a good tip product CHEAP (although I don’t like money claim titles) because it helps you build a list!
With that list, you build trust with a good tip report. You then have their attention for as long as you’re on their list. And if you sold them a $7 report chock full of good information, then they’ll trust a more expensive sale. Or repeat cheaper ones.
This character on WF is someone who does not “get” what marketing and relationship building is all about. He’s just a whiner and conspiracy theorist troll who likes to slam anyone and everyone because some people simply get off on that – being “against the grain” of the majority.
Someone on the forum thread asked these questions:
1. Time. If GuruA is running a legit, profitable business, he is probably putting alot of time into it. Most successful businesses require a solid time commitment. Where does one find the time to provide support to end users of an ebook?
I know for a fact that my eBooks are as thorough as they can be – support time is nearly non-existent. It’s well laid out. And it doesn’t take much time to answer an occasional question.
2. Money. Running a legit, profitable business requires time. Time is money. If GuruA earns $100 for every hour he spends IMPLEMENTING his method, why would he divert time away from that to sell an ebook and support end users, which at the end of the day, is far more costly in terms of time spent?
Because most “gurus” outsource a bunch of tasks, like content – which is a big time drain. Doesn’t take much time to plug in content into an autoresponder, or a blog – outsource writing to a ghostwriter for just about everything. I do tons of different things – eBooks, blogging, outsourcing, etc. Many of these, once you set them up, they’re pretty automated – not requiring a lot of daily focus, so you DO have time to do something else.
3. Competition. Why sell a method that is only going to create competition? OP alluded to this and I agree. Most people are not into charity when it comes to their business plans and strategies.
I said above some create a course and DO leave out details on purpose – can’t stand them! But a method is different from sharing an exact niche. You’d never guess some of the niche markets these guys are profiting in. So sharing a method is no skin off their nose – it adds money to their bottom line, period.
And again, not everyone is greedy. The person asking these question obviously has a NON GIVER mindset! They can’t IMAGINE anyone giving of themselves so freely, and honestly, I’ve met a TON of givers in the IM niche – aside from Craig. Look at how much Peg Baron helped ME, a COMPETITOR of hers, when I needed help setting up my affiliate program?
I shared my exact niche and strategies in creating a PLR store – why? Because there’s always room for competition. It’s OKAY to share things!
Anyway, time to take responsibility and stop believing everyone’s out to get you.
LEARN who to trust and you won’t get ripped off and you WILL grow your business successfully. </rant>
Tiff
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I think the main problem is that some people who are new to the business get so overwhelmed that they start worrying if the whole MMO thing is an illusion or not. I don’t think that people really make comments like this from a point of criticism – I think they’re just a little down on their luck, frustrated and wondering if they’ve just entered the lion’s den.
I think that the whole IM thing is still a little scary to many and they wonder if it’s actually possible to get it working in other niches. What I don’t get is how people can’t see that the WF is the place where marketers hang out and so of course they’re going to be teaching and selling marketing advice there. They’re hardly going to be selling gardening tips
I think that marketing teachers sometimes get lots of abuse from those that don’t think about them making money in other niches. But you’ve only got to look at Clickbank and similar sites to see that that stuff in other niches is selling like hot cakes. Someone’s obviously promoting those products and making good money.
I sort of came into this game backwards having already made a small living from websites before I discovered IM and so it’s been a great to learn from others and knowing that it’s possible since I had done it myself.
Even those that criticize teachers could still take the time to analyze the actual business model of the teachers. The whole list building, the products and the marketing tactics can easily just be applied to other niches – even if you never bought a product from them – you can still see how their business model works.
Some people, I suspect, make most of their money just from selling MMO WSOs – but they’re just one group of marketers. I personally don’t mind if someone is making money in other niches or not – as long as what they are teaching is good.
They’ve still invested the time and effort to put it together. Some people are just natural teachers and have a great way of explaining things and – more importantly – inspiring others.
I don’t think that people specifically criticize teachers and other marketers because they’re trying to be insulting. I just think that they’re get a little frustrated or upset that things aren’t working out as well as they had liked. It’s easy to get disillusioned in this business and even easier to lose focus. I don’t think it’s a personal vendetta against marketing teachers, but more the showing of their own disappointment.
Yes Nathan – and I can see someone new feeling alone, been ripped off, etc – I don’t blame them for not knowing off the bat who to trust but then ask “how do I know who to trust?” This guy claims he makes $600,000 a year. I agree too – there are marketing lessons in selling marketing to marketers, so the lessons are legitimate regardless of if they’re in a non MMO niche.
Tiff,
I wonder how people would feel if no-one ever wrote reports telling them how to do online marketing. I imagine they would be complaining about the selfish sonsaguns.
I like that they wonder why someone would spend the time to write a $7 report, and then knock ‘em for not just giving the information away.
I admit that I have spent way too much in the past year on shiny stuff. But even at it’s poorest, there was usually at least a nugget or two in there. You have to take the bad with the good an see if in aggregate it wasn’t worth the cost.
It’s a year of education for a couple thousand dollars. That’s a deal.
Dan
Agree Danny! Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
Thank You Tiff! I’ve been holding back with a rant on this very subject myself.
In a free forum I read daily (Not WF) – a group of about 10 of the members (always the same 10ish people) love to bash the “teachers”.
This forum has nothing to do with IM – so they don’t “get” why people would share their knowledge and charge for it.
1. They don’t understand why people would want to pay for knowledge that you can find for free.
2. They don’t see the value of having all (years) the knowledge that someone has learned from trial and error – placed in a book format that can teach you how to build a great business – one that will feed your family and pay all your bills “Even In This Down Economy”. Proven – Real – Do It And It Works Business in plain English – without any secrets or holding back.
3. Not ONE of these “bashers” purchased the book and read it. Why would anyone actually “say” online that they can’t believe someone would actually charge “money” for a book about x business… it makes these “naysayers” look plain stupid IMO.
4. My thought is that they are jealous of someone making money sharing “exactly how to grow a profitable business” – because they don’t want a)competition or b)they didn’t think of it and sell a book themselves.
5. I’ve heard/read several places that many “teach” – but are not “doing” this business model themselves. It’s often hard to “tell” when someone is selling a book filled with real knowledge and help – or just selling junk.
Don’t ever buy anything that doesn’t offer a refund.
Don’t buy a book from someone you don’t already trust.
Don’t buy a book/course from someone who offers a refund – but want’s a restocking fee. (and that restocking fee is in little tiny print hidden away where you couldn’t possible pay attention to it – until you want a return and the publisher slaps it in front of your face).
Don’t buy a book/course that you have not seen reviewed by someone you trust. And… that someone better be accountable for that review. If the product turns out to be worthless – you should have the ability to make the reviewer accountable for their actions as well as getting a refund from the product owner.
What “got my Honey Badger” back up – was this:
The forum moderator “lets” this happen. I’m all for free speech… BUT not when the person/product who is being bashed is BANNED from the forum.
This forum will ban anyone who has a “product” that teaches/helps – but they will let “bashers” stay in with all the nastiness and the moderator just asks that they “stop being nasty”.
The moderator says over and over “let’s just play nice and get along”. Oh please… crawl out of your hole and get real.
The big clue here is that “I don’t participate in this forum”. (because they would kick me out – I have a product… LOL). I’m inside watching and reading and learning “what not to do” – For Free. They will ask me to leave eventually… they don’t like anyone who doesn’t participate. Non-participation makes them think you are “sneaky and stealing”. If I participate – I’ll be asked to leave. Catch 22.
It’s been years since I’ve been involved with a group of people that don’t have a business built on Internet Marketing.
I’m finding it fascinating and educational.
I have found two opposite groups. Those that are so willing to help/teach/learn and those that are grumpy/nasty/secretive.
The one thing “both camps” share? There isn’t one “make a million in an hour” guru. Gotta love that.
Awesome Debra! Loved the last part of #3 too
You go girl. I love the fact that they would kick you out as a spy or something. LOL
Okay, I’m disappointed. You put “conspiracy theorist” in the title and not only am I a fiction writer (sometimes) who loves a good conspiracy theory, I also have some of my own. {Sigh} LOL
You know, there’s always going to be whiners and moaners in the bunch and those who don’t “get it.” It’s kind of like Occupy Wall Street and this weekend was Occupy Amsterdam (we have friends in Holland that attended). Supposedly the group is against corruption, which is understandable–who isn’t? Half the people there are probably there for the right reason, but there’s always those that show up who are against the rich in general. They think the rich were given their money–they didn’t do anything to earn it.
They don’t bother to read rags to riches stories like Dani Johnson and Joe Vitale, who were both homeless at times in their lives, or John Assaraf who spent his early childhood in Isreal ducking under anything he could to avoid bombs. Or even Sam Walton or Henry Ford who started two of our most major corporations.
I know that’s not the topic at hand, just good examples at how misguided and misinformed people can be. They “see” only what they want to see.:(
And most of them just want to rile someone up. They don’t even care what cause it’s about, they just want to go around and piss people off.
Just my thoughts. I’m still disappointed about the conspiracy theory stuff though. LOL.
LOL well there are good conspiracies and bad ones
I love a good one too!
Nice post Tiff! While there are definitely people who make tons selling course after course, it is pretty easy to spot the people who do likely make a bulk of their money from selling their so called strategies though. Those are the people’s lists I mass deleted myself from a few years ago…
It’s nice to see people who genuinely like to teach and clearly get something non-money related out of it!
Thanks Clefty
Well, there are rants, and then there are rants! I would call this a teaching rant.
What a lot of great information you shared in this one post. Your willingness to spend the time and energy to teach by sharing from your own experience is invaluable to those of us who “sit at your feet”.
Now I need to go back and read it again – I’m sure there are deeper nuggets than I got upon first read.
Thank you!!!
Thanks Edie
In the beginning, when I thought I knew about marketing and really knew nothing, I had the mindset that made me feel like why should people charge to teach me something. I quickly got over that. As a marketer we should grow and our thoughts should evolve.
When you think about all the work it takes to put something together, learn or create a technique, test it out and then put it all together in a format that can help others, that’s a lot of work. I’m all for teaching for free but one is trying to make a living too. Why shouldn’t they benefit by people purchasing the information especially if that information will help them in turn to make money. That’s how I view it now.
I buy courses and ebooks by reputable people and I don’t worry about the price unless it’s unaffordable to me and if it is I just don’t buy it and keep it to myself. I don’t go find a forum to bash someone. I think a lot of times these people are haters and wish they could get people to purchase from them or either they don’t understand marketing at all. Those who are making real money or trying to create a real income from home don’t have time for nonsense as they have reputation to uphold, need time to create and genuinely care about helping others.
Good mindset Alice
Tiffany,
I bought your Squidoo ebook some time ago. Great insights that changed the way I thought about Squidoo and using for marketing purposes.
I’m glad you’re teaching it
I like to hold to the belief that 98% of all people are honest, and it’s served me well (heard it somewhere before, it’s not based on any science)…so that would extend to how many people in IM are dishonest…and it’s really less than we think.
agree!
I’m very thankful for those who sell their knowledge, and I don’t mind paying for it. I’m grateful when I find a gem for a good price and don’t understand the bashers at all…go away if you don’t like it.
Tiff, I love your blog because many comments are just as thought-provoking and educational as what you write. Thank you all!
thanks Melody!
Well said, Tiffany!
I make money online. People ask me how I do. I tell them.
I play Rift. People ask me about the game (in game). I answer them.
Sometimes I make money from both things, but what drives me is a wish to help and to share.
Bravo Britt!
Tiff, this is exactly the kind of rant I enjoy! I know that when I was getting started (well actually I still am a real beginner in some IM things!), I longed to find information for free so I could get up and running. But that didn’t happen. AND I do believe the creator/marketer deserves to be compensated for their work.
Then:
1. I found you and your prices and information are totally affordable.
2. I quit spending money on programs that promised instant riches (rigggghhhht) and held aside enough to purchase the things I need from you, Craig D and Sam, Jimmy and a few select others who actually take you through the complete teaching on whatever their subject.
3. I realized there will always be those with an “I need a handout” mentality – for all the reasons one might have that mentality. Some will get over it with greater understanding and clarity as I have, and some just seem to be built to be that way LOL
You still rock, Tiff! Great Post!
Linda
Thanks Linda! #2 is what helps people most to me.
This was one of your better posts, among all the other good ones. You pretty much hit it out of the park on this one.
In fact, this post will go in my Tiff1 file. I have two Tiffany Dow files, Tiff1 and Tiff2. The “1″ file is where the bomb-a$$ed posts go, like this one.
Thanks for the share Tiff, and give Honey my regards.
Why thank ya Philip!
I don’t know, Tiff. I kinda miss the sailor talk.
LOL Well David it may not be gone forever – I AM broke right now after putting quite a bit in the cuss jar.
Yes, this is one of your better “rant” posts. I have that conspiracy theory feeling when I see the first page of comments on a new WSO all coming from those that do WSO’s and rave about a product that has been live for only a few hours, and find that after 2 days have passed the negative comments from regular WF members start. Either way, there are plenty of shortcuts to the learning process that I have picked up for under $10.
That’s one of those back scratching circles or aka: “mastermind groups” I once got invited to and left once I discovered they comment on each other’s stuff in a phony manner.
What really ticks me off on WF is when the negative posts regarding someone – especially those in the good ol’ boy network – (not so) mysteriously disappear.
I at least have a grudging respect for those who are man and woman enough to leave the thumbs downs posts in their threads along with the pats on the back.
One of the worst when it comes to deleting negative comments on WF is one of the so-called kid wonders, C**** S*******. And I even personally told him he needs to learn how to man up.
lol Yes Philip I wish we could name and shame there too. That’d be awesome if we could do that!
I got in on that thread too! The problem isn’t the teaching – because without it none of us could progress. We all have paid for legit business seminars over the years to learn about something – whether it is new software, selling techniques, etc etc. THAT IS TEACHING!!! and it is teaching you are PAYING FOR!!!
The problem is the “gurus” that have soured the rest of us. And, if you are stupid to fall for what they are “selling” then you have to OWN IT!!!
Snake oil salesmen have been around FOREVER!! and Barnum’s famous quote “there is a sucker born every minute” was said 100 years ago.
It is your job as a consumer not to be a sucker. They are confusing dirty selling techniques with teaching and they aren’t the same.
I think many of the complainers are those that don’t want to think for themselves at all. They want to make a million dollars every month from now on with a cut and paste system they never have to make adjustments to. Just about any type of business you want to build and succeed with – on the internet or otherwise – is going to require some degree of unique thought and individualism.
Yes – and do they not shop around to see who’s legit and who’s not? Ridiculous!
I will be pithy. Being a rookie learning to earn, some of the things I have learned is: Never pay for something that you can’t afford, if it sounds to good to be true or (as you have stated) that you haven’t done due diligence in doing SOME kind of research (reputation and results),study it closely and don’t rush. Yes, the Internet can be a jungle…but go cautiously and always look for reputable help. I have slowly put together those mentors that I feel I can trust (as you and also Debra)and try to stick with ONE venture to make successful before branching out. You can’t lump all in one category and label them.
Exactly Tony. You take responsibility – unfortunately, some people are in such a panic they rush and then get burned.
Totally agree with your rant, and that it’s right for people to get paid when they help. I can see why it’s fulfilling too. Although I’ve never released a MMO eBook, I did recently write a post stating everything I did to get my PLR store up to its current level of success. It made me happy
One thing I AM very cautious of – now, I didn’t used to be – is when it’s a very specific method. E.g. you have to use X blog layout, X plugins, X this and that and by selling a guide they totally ruin the method because Google is onto the people that use it. This is what I am very cautious of these days and what makes me wonder why they’d ruin their own methods by letting everyone in on it?
A legitimate guide that doesn’t teach specific loopholes is not the same. For example, your PLR ATM guide goes into specifics but there are a million ways for PLR sellers to be different, and the market is open to all of us. So I totally understand why you would release that guide even though you ARE making money “walking the walk” too. And your tips for researching GOOD IM products should leave us with these kind of guides anyway.
Agree! And I encourage people to “FrankenTiff” their strategy whenever something isn’t right for them or they want to do it differently, too.
That was only a little rant and you told it like it is. Even some of my best friends online will bad mouth someone or something because “it didn’t work”. Well in most cases it’s the individual that didn’t work. There are no easy buttons. most people (and I’ve been guilty of this) work as something a short time and declare it useless.
Making money online takes dedication and it’s time we all quit blaming others and point the finger back at ourselves.
Amen to that Rhonda!
Had to laugh when I got to this part from the OP
“My business generates 100% of its revenue online. I do zero paid advertising, I own a forum that generates revenue for my business and am foraying into more of a teaching role instead of the doing role. I have worked hard built the business from 0 to 600-700k a year gross sales beginning in 2006 becoming incorporated, now its best to work smart. Sorry I have ZERO get rich today schemes on the burner. ”
So he is going from doing to teaching …… making him no different from half the people he is ranting about
People are funny aren’t they?
Rach
Yes they are! Hypocrits… smh
Hey Tiff
I’m not sure why you bothered to comment on that post. It seems to me the Woodsy guy was just pushing buttons for the fun of it.
Did I comment on it? I didn’t think I did but I may have LOL! I thought I just commented here. I really wanted to rip Sal a new one – that guy’s a total moron every time I see a post he makes.
C’mon Tiffany. I sure you can dig around and find a few more quarters. LOL. But you hit it right on the head. I must admit i use to jump when i saw some of these folks posting about becoming a millionaire in a short period of time with their chosen goodie. it only takes so many times getting burned before you wake up and see what is real and what is not. thanks for sharing your thoughts. I like honest people.
Andre
LOL I know I can! And me too Andre – honest people are abundant too if you’ll seek them out.
Love your rant! I saw the thread on WF and debated with myself whether I should post too but eventually didn’t – probably would have been a waste of time anyway LOL!
Yes, there is crap out there – especially in the WSO section for some reason. I had a WSO/IM-product addiction and bought a lot, most of that turned out to be the same stuff rehashed and with a new cover. A lot of times I thought: not again, I just read something like this!
But then I had enough and decided to focus on one strategy that was simple and proven to work. And that’s when I made my first few sales
Those people have to realize every time you buy something you have to treat it as a *business decision*. Is it really worth it? What is the course about anyway? Don’t buy anything thats a “secret” where they can’t exactly tell you what it’s about because that would give away too much – I fell for that a few times and it’s always some loophole strategy that’ll stop working in a few months.
Is that a wise business decision? Would anyone in the offline world buy anything where they didn’t know exactly what it was? No!
After a few bad decisions you’ll learn to spot the bad eggs. There are dead giveaways like overhyped stories, rags to riches within a week, “secrets” disclosed by ex-whatever, no screenshots of the actual product, no video reviews on youtube etc.
If it’s too good to be true it usually is. If you buy it anyway don’t go whine on a forum. Own up and make a better decision next time. Btw, I don’t believe that the guy in the thread really makes 600+k/year. Or maybe he does and is just gearing up to finally selling the ultimate I-swear-you’ll-get-rich guide LOL!
Agree with everything you said Lisa!
I stayed away from that thread because I knew it would annoy me but now I went to check it out. And I was right. Annoyed.
I just read a book called “Delivering Happiness” by Zappos CEO Tony Hsieh. He build a multi-billion dollar company from scratch and now he’s teaching others how he did it. Even wrote a book. I paid around $12 for that book. According to that dude why would a billionaire like Hsieh waste his time writing a book and only charging $12! Must be a scam.
Hey Tiff, are you excited about the Rangers? Should be a good World Series!
Alan
lol Alan I got annoyed too. Some people ya just want to shake. And YES! I AM excited about the Rangers – I hope we finally get a bona fide win in the big time!
Fantastic post! I think you hit the nail on the head, and anyone getting into the business should be aware of this aspect. As a freelance writer, I always thought “I’ll be 100% honest and hard working and will never have a problem,” but just like anyone who stays online long enough, I have negative comments and scores that can be found about me. The positive outweighs the negative but you always run into some people who just troll and complain and don’t get it. I agree with your reading of the situation – take responsibility, do your best, and just go from there.
Yep Shane I had a couple of squirrely idiots who left me poor feedback when I wrote but you could tell from their feedback they were nuts. And I defended myself.
Another Great Post Tiffany. A lot to think about here. We miss the videos, especially those with HONEY. We always enjoy so much seeing HONEY in the videos. Hope you can start doing them again.
I will try Sam – she’s also lazier LOL! She sits beside me sleeping most days.
“I myself have many niches I’m in. Some I have shared with y’all in the past – some I never do. I don’t want copycats getting into my niche.”
Yeah, if someone ever asks them what niche you are in just say “sausage making” – works every time.
LOL!
I hate it when I see people bashing others. Many times, I think that it is because they are jealous because the bashee has been able to do something that they feel they could never accomplish. They don’t stop to think about the time and the effort that goes into these courses. Then you have the people feel that others OWE them and, therefore, they should get everything free.
Thank you for everything that you and others do to help us to accomplish things.
You’re welcome Marilyn!
Personally, I’ve been fed up with the guru-bashing for a long time. It’s gotten to the point that lots of sales letters start with “I’m not a guru but …” Since when is ‘guru’ a bad word instead of a respected title?
Buyers have some responsibility, too. Yesterday on a WF post I counted the SAME QUESTION asked 7 times!!! Here are a bunch of people who are supposedly considering spending their money on a product yet they can’t be bothered to read the comments on the thread. What odds of success shall we give people like that? And yet, when they fail, they will blame the Big Bad Guru. What nonsense.
Agree Sydney! They take no time – all in a rush.
Lot of people think that making money on the internet is easy. As a matter of fact its hard but possible. You have been truly great with this and you are a credit to the marketing world.
WOW!! There is enough information and tips here for me to do an e-book. Your rants are priceless. It seems to me, it all just comes down to common sense. But being able to find the common sense thru the fog is not easy at times. I try to remember what my Grand Pa used to tell me about how he determined value as he farmed with just two mules and a wagon,
“Robert, if you want nice clean oats, you have to pay a good price. Now, if you can be happy with oats that have already gone thru the horse, that comes a lot cheaper.”
I continue to try to learn the difference.
This blog is a great help.
Bob
thanks Bob
Go ahead and let it fly Tiffany. You and Debra C. are super. Besides if you let em have it you can always look in any parking lot and find enough pennies and sometimes quarters to plug in to the cuss bank. I am finding other good ones in your postings. Someday I hope to be counted in that same group just for copying your style of doing business and actually making some money at it.
Thanks Jeff
I think that in the internet journey, you go thru stages… it’s harder than you first think, and there’s much more stuff to know than folks will tell you. Mostly, it’s the “invisible skills” that anyone who gets to a certain point learns – and you forget you learned them, when explaining it to someone else.
Had a gal with computer troubles this week; I told her over the phone to “scroll down” – and she didn’t know what that was. That’s the kind of “invisible skill” I mean – part of anyone’s repetoire that regularly uses a computer, and so basic it would not occur to you to mention. In any skill set (internet marketing or cabinet making) they become part of the wallpaper of completing the task… so folks wind up feeling like the info was incomplete, when the writer intended a “tell all” (grin)
Your rant was awesome; and I’ll mail you a roll of quarters for the next time you get on WF…
say “hi” to Craig DeS the next time you chat with him; thanks
LOL You’re right Hagar – there are a bunch of invisible skills! I agree